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Re: Red Wine on Wed Dress
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:57 AM
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Re: Red Wine on Wed Dress

Ouch, tough situation.

Looking at your image, I have to agree with Dennis... Wow, that will be a rough job to clean up. No doubt it can be done, but WOW, what a lot of work to get it just right.

So you're torn... Do a bang up job on the wine removal and you're likely to sell more photos - but nothing is ever certain. Leave it alone and you don't have to do nearly as much work but you're likely to get few sales.

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Re: Red Wine on Wed Dress

What a drag. I was thinking that you could just clone a large selection and move it over, but you don't have enough unstained dress to do that. I would just run the proofs as they are, and put a note on it that you'll fix the stains on the prints you sell them. It's just too much work to fix all the proofs.

I had a girl friend who's father had spilled red wine on her mother's dress at their wedding. She still giving him serious shit about it 35 years later.

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Re: Red Wine on Wed Dress

My advice still stands from my first post with a small addition. My advice is based on what I would do in the same circumstances.

I would still retouch a few select proofs just to show her what can be done on the images.

If she wants retouching, then I would suggest that you tell het that your abilities & time available are not sufficient to do the job properly and that you will have to have a professional retoucher work on them. I'd suggest sending a few away now to 3 or 4 of the pro retouchers and get quotes. I personally would simply charge her your cost of retouching and not mark it up. I'd also tell her that's what you are doing.

The reason for this move is this: Often a Bride wants work done until they realize that there is a hefty cost to it. Often photographers feel sorry for the Bride and do the work for free or almost free. It is very likely that your Bride will only want a few select images retouched in the end if there is a fair and realistic cost to it. After all, the spill did occur and it's now part of her life story.

If I had the spare time, I'd do the retouching myself, it's not as complex as it appears, but if it were me, I would send it away. By farming it out, your time is kept to a minimal and you're simply passing along the appropriate cost.

There are plenty of good pro retouchers on-line that will be glad to give quotes. If you don't know of any (sorry I can't suggest any) then post here and someone will know. Some are sent to South America where they do a great job cheaper and some ore US based. Good luck.

If you still want to retouch yourself, my initial post is close. Reduce stain to minimal with magic wand, feather selection 3 pix, desat, lighten, then clone or cut & paste. You might try healing brush but I personally hate using it.

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Re: Red Wine on Wed Dress

You could post one of them as a processing challenge photo here.

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???? Did I miss it? The link posted awhile back is way too poor to work with. If you can post the original file it would be doable. Reward for winner??? San Juan cruise??

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Re: Red Wine on Wed Dress

Thanks all for your responses. Good ideas! Doug, your last post offers an idea I had not considered. Contracting Out the Job with no mark up is certainly a very fair & reasonable alternative approach. Since it is Feb, I can afford some good will and intend to correct about a dozen key images using a method that closely follows your recommendation. I hope to talk with the client sometime next week and we'll see where it goes. I'll let you know how I make out. And on closer examination, my 75 stained images dwindeled down to about 35, since I had the groom drape his tux coat around her shoulders for the dusk outside shoot. Thanks, Paul B.
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