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Old 03-10-2005, 08:52 PM
SteveWynn SteveWynn is offline
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Re: I wouldn\'t (and don\'t)

NO DRINKS....it's not worth the image that may stick in someone's mind.

Steve
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:51 PM
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Re: I wouldn\'t (and don\'t)

Everyone is different,
It wouldn't be any good to have a world full of George Bush's.

Delane... I don't think a quick beer after a fourteen hour day offers me a problem. I enjoy drinking beer and look forward to being drunk soon after the kids go to sleep. It doesn't make me right about anything though. Each to their own, is all...

I don't think that a pro should get drunk and dance with the guests... and frankly... as I watched the video guy go nuts; I have to admit it was one of the most entertaining things I'd seen for a while. I was very embarrassed 'for him'. But quite amused.

Personally, I don't see a problem with having a glass of wine with dinner because it's a break in the photo taking while the guests eat anyway.
Though I'm inclined to wonder how professional my beer after work or wine with dinner may look to other guests.
But I don't know if I care.

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Bill.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:00 PM
LeeHammond LeeHammond is offline
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Re: I wouldn\'t (and don\'t)

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It wouldn't be any good to have a world full of George Bush's.


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The phrase 'one too many' comes to mind...
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:39 AM
MarkTDavidson MarkTDavidson is offline
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Re: I wouldn\'t (and don\'t)

Bill,

I drink only water and usually won't eat anything.

What others perceive, rightly or wrongly, affects their opinion of me. I have been hired with the undrstanding that I will focus my energies on providing excellent coverage of the event. I feel that I don't want to give anyone the opportunity to have a poor impression of me.
Yeah thay may have a problem with being judgemental, but I can use my head and not let them jump to any ill-informed conclusions.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:27 AM
David_A_Smith David_A_Smith is offline
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Re: I wouldn\'t (and don\'t)

Man! Things must be very different in the social and professional expectations of weddings in other parts of the world to Australia. I worked as a stringer for a studio that primarily catered to othe italian and greek commounities here some years ago. After only a few weeks the owner of the studio had a little chat to me as to keeping the customers happy. A small but noted problem had arisen with one job where I would not have a beer with one of the fathers. ( I do not drink beer) The studio owner mentioned that a lot of people would see this as a " snubing" of their hospitality and was there a problem that I could not have a drink with the clients? After we sorted my aversion to beer, he said if I could have a nip of spirits with them and that was not a problem for me if I could do so to prevent and misunderstanding on the clients part. Over the years I have worked with different cultures I have come to realise the importance of being seen to accept their hospitality when it is offered.

I can state for a fact, some cultures here are nothing less than insulted if you do not have a drink with them. They want to be hospitable to everyone and to not have a drink with them or not enjoying yourself, hired pro or not, does not go down well. Being seen having one drink with dinner and maybe a toast or drink with one of the fathers would in no way at all concern me as to what people may think or think poorly of me as a professional. Turning down having a drink with a member of the families or bridal party would be virtual professional Suicide with a huge number of weddings I have done.

As for drinking water or coke all night for appearences sake, at weddings over here it would be assumed that you were drinking Vodka and lemonade or having a scotch and coke anyway. While I am not adverse to having one or two drinks only on a job, I am also happy to have them and then drink coke for the rest of the night. The number of times I have been asked what I was drinking only to have a father, groom or other person connected with the function then thrust an alcoholic beverage in my hand and insist I drink with them would be too numerous to mention.

While these comments may sound somewhat self serving to some people, I can assure you it is nothing more than good customer relations. I have found as would have many others, the quality of your photos is very much based by the clients on how they like you as a person. Turning down the offerings of a gracious host is something some will quickly forget and certainly won't enhance your reputation or the perception of your work especially if they are the ones writing your cheque! :0)

As Bill says, everyone is different and so maybe accepted standards in different areas. Bottom line is we should all do what we think is best [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: Wedding drink?

Never
I don't know these people well enough to drink with them..(nor would I usually want to)
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:59 PM
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Re: Wedding drink?

In 13 years and 500+ weddings I have never taken a drink on any type of assignment, ever! After the event is a different story... Look, you are there to do a job. In effect you are representing all professional wedding photographers. Get in, do an awsome job, get out. Unless you are an "alcoholic" why do you need a drink? You should be focused on the job regardless what stage it is (the end of the night). The last thing you want is a client saying, "yea, he/she did a great job but was drinking...". Because chances are the only thing a person will remember is "...was DRINKING..." and not the great job you did. Why risk it? Also, what happens if you get pulled over by the "law"? You are screwed!!!

After the shoot, go home, have a beer... but not at the event. In my opinion is is very unprofessional. {Of course, as it would be, I am enjoying a "Black Lager" right now after an all day proofing session}. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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