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Digital retouching
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Old 03-28-2001, 05:35 PM
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Digital retouching

Since we need to get some posts in here (so people don't think that this is a dead area)

I figured I'd add a sample of what I did on e recent shoot. I photographed the couple with their dog and cat. (I recommended what to wear but he didn't have much she said) so ignore his sweater ;-) I could have changed it but thought that might be insulting to them.

anyway - I shot 50/50 film and D30. The film shots were all pretty unusable because the dog sucked up the light like a black hole in space. Even in digital - he needed help. Actually the whole shot did. Since animals aren't always cooperative, I shot serveral shots and poses. This was the one the couple liked best. But as you can see from the orginal on the left, the dog looked at the cat and the cat looked down at the moment of exposure. Because the couple liked their expressions here the best, I took the dogs head off another shot and the cats head off yet a third shot and combined them in this one image. I also burned the edges a little because I don't have a matte box or vignette on the D30. I tweaked image quality and levels and found that 'dad's coloration was pretty bad. HE WAS VERY RED... that was just him as I noticed this would be a problem when I was photographing them. So I selected his hand and face and adjusted the color so that it would better match that of his wife.

I softened lines and wrinkles (which really can't be seen here - but can in the larger full size images) and I removed the yellow and redness from both of their teeth (they were heavy smokers I'd bet)

In addition to placing a better "head on the dog" he was still very dark. I laid in some extra detail in the coat using the dodge tool and the rubber stamp tool in photoshop. Also because the main light was on the right side. Only the dogs right eye showed up. So I copied his right eye - flipped it horizontally and pasted it in place on the left side of the dogs face.

After doing the work this image ended up going to 16x20 - printed photographically on a "lightjet" printer which is like a huge photo enlarger, but projects a digital file to paper with lasers. The final print was excellent and the customers loved it.

See it here... http://www.zing.com/picture/p1f9e611...8.jpg.orig.jpg

They said - I was the first person who could take a photograph of their dog and have any detail show up.
Without digital - I couldn't have pulled this off. And probably would have had to reshoot the family of four "outdoors" in outdoor light in the spring.




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Old 03-29-2001, 04:48 AM
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Ron,

Nice job. I hope you got paid extra for all that work. Next time please use a smaller file, Say under 500x500 or smaller. It's hard to do all that scrolling around. And it'll load faster for us modem users.

Don't you hate Black Dogs??

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Old 03-29-2001, 12:18 PM
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Re: Digital retouching

Ron
Hopefully this forum will accept posts about pet portaits (as this is what I do !!) I know exactly what you mean about black dogs....I recently did a sitting for a chap that had travelled some 3 hours to get to my location. He had kindly taken his dogs to the groomers and they had cut his coat quite short...the result was one very matt black dog !!

I was using the D30 for only the second time and I couoldn't work out why the pictures looked so under exposed (I thought that it was the camera)..I eventually had to use + 4 stops to get an acceptable picture....at least I could check each one as I took it.

Just one question how did you get the image into your message ?

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Old 03-29-2001, 12:27 PM
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Re: Digital retouching

>Nice job. I hope you got paid extra for all that work. Next time please use a smaller file, Say under 500x500 or smaller. It's hard to do all that scrolling around. And it'll load faster for us modem users.

It only took an hour or so and I enjoyed it as I really don't work this time of year other than 1-2 hours a month at the studio. The near 900.00 order for 1 16x20, 4 5x7s and a few wallets and proofs was payment enough for me.

The image was as small as I would allow to share it. Quality is my #1 concern at all times. I never do things for the lowest demoninator. (you need to upgrade your display and net connection). Since it loads almost instantly with cable and the size is only a little over a quarter of the space on my display?

It's hard to learn from images that are scaled down and compressed in oblivion.
Thanks for the comments, no I don't care much for black dogs or any 'pet animals' for that matter. I grew up with lots of pets and when our wonderful dog passed away at age 17... I said I wouldn't get another. Now being away from pets for several years I find them dirty, foul little creatures that don't belong in people's homes. They are cute as long as they are someone elses's.
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Old 04-01-2001, 05:45 PM
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Ron !

I think You should reconsider about the image size of your posts.
Its arrogant to say that we either should upgrade monitor or connection. I access this forum from 3 different places. Office (large screen) studio (medium screen) and bedside laptop with 13" screen. The text is hard to read on a small monitor since I have to scroll sideways for each row with your large images.
If you downscale properly you wouldn't lose quality.
BTW you are stealing bandwith from others that not have cable conn.
The posts have to travel with other stuff ant the larger the stuff the slower it gets, even for You Sir although you have cable.
I think Rob Galbraith would agree about image insertions....

Keep inserted images off the forum !!! Post your link instead, and we will be able to view both the text and the image properly.

Hope I didn't offend You, Your work is really good !

But I think that You shouldn't comment Your clients facecolor and presumed smokinghabits on the internet. Suppose they could happen to read that...(smile)

Cutting and pasting is good as long as You use the right parts and not flips the opposite eye for instance. That is not what we Portrais photographers should do. We should show the real parts in the right places unless it is a collage inspired by Picasso. (smile)

Keep posting !

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Re: Digital retouching

Ron,

You could split the image vertically and make everyone happier.

This forum system spreads the text out wide if you post a big photo. Those of us with a bizillion pixels can make a really wide window and read it all, but a lot of folks don't have that luxury.

I recall you mentioning that photo over on the D30 forum. Nice work. Like you, I've done a lot of that sort of thing, combining several images to make one good one. Digital is the single most freeing factor in photography since the camera itself, IMO.

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Old 04-02-2001, 04:03 AM
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There are a lot of Photographer which make the eyes 106%.

Portraits should show the best in people and little enhancements make better portraits.

Just make people look good and get Paid for it. They look at Fashion Magazine and want to look the same as the super models.

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