Bread and Circuses

KirkDarling · #1 04-25-2005, 03:38 PM

As I look at the first page of this Soap Box forum, what I find striking is that nearly all the posts fall under the category of "I want what I want, I want it for free, and manufacturers have a moral obligation to it to me for as long as I want it."

One topic is different: Photographers appear to be unwilling to give editors and art designers the same "I want what I want, and I want it for free" rights that they demand for themselves. Hmm.

MarkTDavidson · #2 04-26-2005, 02:50 AM

Great point.

I have noted that the most sucessful people "want what I want, for free, right now" and that the less sucessful may want the same things , but don't persist.

Those same people are entirely uninterested in your observation as it doesn't get them any closer to what they want and is therefore irrelevant. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

KirkDarling · #3 04-26-2005, 09:02 PM

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Great point.

I have noted that the most sucessful people "want what I want, for free, right now" and that the less sucessful may want the same things , but don't persist.

Those same people are entirely uninterested in your observation as it doesn't get them any closer to what they want and is therefore irrelevant. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Depends on what you consider "successful." In terms of simply money and power, I'm sure you're right. Some people prefer to maintain a coherently virtuous ethical philosophy, however.

Bill_Jurasz · #4 04-26-2005, 09:28 PM

Kirk, you are absolutely right. But why does it surprise you?

MarkTDavidson · #5 04-28-2005, 02:44 AM

Kirk

Quite right. I am using "sucessful" in an ironic sense. However, achieving goals (I want what I want) requires persistence( didn't get it? ask again), focus ( I am not interested in what you are saying, listen to me , this is important) Passion ( this is the most important thing to me, everything is less important) Drive ( I am not too tired to whine some more).

In more socially acceptable behavior this can achieve socially positive results. ( I am going to put my family first and not work 15 hours overtime or I am going to find enough donors to fund a cure for xxx).

The sad truth is that if we are not industrious in going after what we want, it is unlikely to happen. Selfish or altruistic.

Regards,

Mark