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Old 03-08-2005, 09:22 AM
Larry_Menzin Larry_Menzin is offline
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

I am using the DW-31 on my Kodak DCS760, which is a true F5 body. It is one reason why it is still my primary 35mm digital body.

  


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Old 03-08-2005, 03:37 PM
Bern_Caughey Bern_Caughey is offline
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

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Probably my biggest concern with the current FOV cropped dSLRs is their small viewfinders.

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Lloyd made a real world comparrison between the D2x's & 1Ds2's viewfinders here.

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Old 03-08-2005, 03:43 PM
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

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wish the D2x had been a "Canon killer", but honestly I'm not (yet) recomending it for commercial photographers

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Yes, but what about for wedding / event stuff?

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Sal,

I limited my statements to "commercial photographers" as other genres have different needs & I could see the D2x possibly working much better for some of those.

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Old 03-08-2005, 06:08 PM
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

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Lloyd made a real world comparrison between the D2x's & 1Ds2's viewfinders here.

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Is that really viable is a real world comparison? I was tempted to write this last night.

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I don't feel frustrated at all using the D2X viewfinder, and it actually feels easier to see the whole scene--with a full-frame viewfinder I feel like I have to consciously scan the edges of the frame to be sure of what I'm getting. Maybe someone with tons of experience just learns to see more with peripheral vision.

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That kind of statement gives me pause, it's a bit of a reach. I'm not saying Lloyd is entitled to feel that way, he certainly is. But what's reported here is that the 1DsM2 viewfinder is more than one can take in, that it requires both tons of experience and very good peripheral vision to use.

Not too long ago, it was the time of film. In the time of film 35mm cameras all had "full-frame" viewfinders. No one then seemed complain about the viewfinders being too much to take in or requiring tons of experience to utilize. In fact, most reviewers faulted cameras whose viewfinders did not show 100% of the 35mm frame. Leica even used seeing beyond the frame as a selling point for their rangefinder cameras.

Maybe I'm being too nitpicky but to see it as a negative aspect seems odd to me. I can see how the D2x viewfinder would feel fine, I shot with the D1x for three years and was perfectly satisfied with it's viewfinder. I didn't realize though what I had missed until I once again regained the full 35mm viewfinder with the 1Ds and now the 1DsM2.

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Old 03-08-2005, 07:58 PM
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

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That kind of statement gives me pause, it's a bit of a reach. I'm not saying Lloyd is entitled to feel that way, he certainly is. But what's reported here is that the 1DsM2 viewfinder is more than one can take in, that it requires both tons of experience and very good peripheral vision to use.

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My statement should be taken for what it is--an opinion, not a fact. I would make the same comment about an F100 (I think--I don't have one anymore). That the 1DsMII viewfinder presents a larger image is an absolute. That it is easier to use is entirely subjective and perhaps related to one's shooting. By "experience" I just meant that for *myself*, full frame viewfinder of the size in the 1DsMII (no they're not all the same), gives me pause when composing to consciously examine the entire image area (scan the edges).

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Old 03-08-2005, 10:40 PM
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

I shoot commercial work and have been using D1x bodies for 3.5 years. Although I would always certainly welcome a larger viewfinder it hasn't really caused me any frustration at all. If I'm shooting a large ad campaign with many people on set I will sometimes shoot tethered to a Powerbook but not too often.

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:45 AM
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Re: Another 1Ds/2 vs D2x

A friend of mine just picked up a D2x and I just had the chance to play with it for 5 min. I didn't have my 1DsII there with me, but there were a couple things I immediately noticed: the whole thing's definitely a heckuva lot smaller (plus) and the viewfinder is too (not a plus, although bigger than I remember my D1x being). What struck me is how big the high speed crop area is relative to what I was expecting. It actually seems useable (although useless to my work), which I wasn't expecting! Another nice thing is how large the RGB histograms are, relative to the Canon.

Still happy that I had my "D2x" a couple years ago, and now I'm onto my Canon "D3x."

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