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Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Interactive Review
Published by drew
06-27-2007
Day 15 Test Your MKIII in 3 Simple Steps



Day 15: August 7, 2007

Test Your Canon 1D MKIII

Follow these 3 simple steps to test your camera. The entire process from watching the tutorial video to downloading and coding your results should take you well under two hours.

1) Adjust Camera Settings:

1) Turn on your MKIII. Go into the menu and click "Clear All Camera Settings" and "Clear All Custom Functions."
2) Select AI Servo focus Mode and 45pt. Autofocus Point Selection (Ring of Fire).
3) Set your camera to "AV" and select an aperture of f/2.8
4) Select High Speed Shutter (The three little boxes with a small H next to them).


2) Watch the 2 Minute Video:

Now watch the 2 minute streaming video or download the high-res video here. Caution, the download is over 150mb.


3) Code Your 5 Test Trial Runs:


After doing your five trial runs you will want to reference these two pages for guidance on how we decide whether the image is in focus or not. You do not have to code exactly as we would to get accurate results, just within the same ballpark. There is a bit of wiggle room in the percentage ratings below. You are also welcome to upload some of your trials for a basic assessment.

Count the number of out of focus images in each trial and get the percentage of out of focus shots for each trial. To do this simply divide the number of out of focus images by the total number of images in the sequence. Take all 5 trial averages and then add them together and divide by 5 to get your overall average.

When you have these numbers, come back to the website and compare your results to the numbers below to determine whether to pack up your camera and send it off to repair, or rest easy knowing your camera is whole through and through.


"Good" Autofocus Range: 0-30% Out of Focus across 5 trials.
(I would do a dance and get crackin' taking more amazing photos. Do not return to this thread or any other regarding Autofocus problems.)

"Marginal" Autofocus Range: 30-40% Out of Focus across 5 trials.
(I would be concerned, but before sending it off I would ask a few questions here and consider doing a few more trial runs before getting too excited.)

"Poor" Autofocus Range: 40% or more Out of Focus across 5 trials.

(I would get out that box and start packing it up.)


If sending off to repair please feel free to provide this link to Canon service so they may easily replicate your study. Please also provide your trial results good or bad and serial number here in this thread (the first 4 numbers).


Additional Notes:
The lens you use will impact performance to some extent. However, at the end of the day, it should not materially impact your results. Unless your lens is broken, of course. Any Canon fast telephoto lens is preferable, but we have also tested with an 85mm f/1.8 just for fun. If the lens in use has IS you may want to turn it off. It is preferable to keep your shutter speed above 1500 and below 8000 throughout your run. Adjust your ISO setting up or down to get within this range.

Another Note to those who question the video and the tripod?
We are pros, we personally have a bogen to mount the camera on. Even, if we didn't, do you really think that if we are shooting with a $4,500 camera and a $7,000 lens we could not somehow acquire a $200- $300 tripod. For crying out loud! A cheap tripod is used intentionally to illustrate that anyone can do this test. This test has been kept as simple as possible throughout. If you wish to delve into all the nuances of the findings and results read them on the other pages.

In addition, the "Good" MKIII was also shot on the same ultra cheap pod.

Again, quit wasting your time posting on forums and DO THE TEST!

I now see clearly why Canon is taking the approach they are taking. Because there is absolutely no need to do anything more. They are wiser than I. They have been around long enough to know that all people want to do is talk.

Where's the action? Got an opinion. Do the test and back up your comments.



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By Noel_Carboni on 06-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Re: Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Progressive Review

So far so good. Reinforces my theory that a problem such as Rob saw must be a manufacturing defect. Let's be realistic: It would actually be difficult to design an AF system that would be negatively affected by temperature.

The fact that Rob tested two different bodies and found virtually the same defect in both may mean it's a component problem with a particular batch, which was a different batch than the one from which the camera you tested, Drew, was made.

It's a shame there had to be a controversy over this new camera, even to the point where folks canceled orders. Even the best home run hitters in baseball don't hit home runs every time at bat, and even a whole game devoid of homers doesn't mean their capacity to hit them is diminished.

-Noel

P.S., your review's second page is a bit wide as viewed in IE7.
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By EricC on 06-27-2007, 11:01 AM
Re: Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Progressive Review

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Originally Posted by Noel_Carboni View Post
Even the best home run hitters in baseball don't hit home runs every time at bat, and even a whole game devoid of homers doesn't mean their capacity to hit them is diminished.
You HAVE got to be kidding. The difference between us and the masses is that we ARE expected to come back with 'the' shot EVERY time. I can hear it now..... Lets just go into the church's basement for your portraits, it's too hot and bright out here. MY batting average HAS to be better than .500, it darn well be better than .750 or I can trade all my gear in for a mini van and start shuttling kids off to soccer practice.

Good thing the Super Bowl is held in February and in the evening.
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By Steve_Brenner on 06-27-2007, 12:52 PM
Re: Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Progressive Review

Drew,
I appreciate your effort to evaluate the AF quality in the Canon 1D MkIII. As one who has taken delivery of an early model, I am most interested in how the AF is working. The football season is still a few months away, but concerns about the AF system's effectiveness are weighing on my mind right now.

I would have liked to see some comparisons of the "runner" standing still at a few distances from your camera to see how the AF works on a non-moving object. In addition, there seems to be some motion created blur which indicates that a faster shutter speed could have resulted in less overall blur.

Thanks for contributing to our understanding of the issue. My hope, of course, is that Canon is listening and will make appropriate adjustments to both currently manufactured and future Mk III bodies.

Steve Brenner
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By Noel_Carboni on 06-27-2007, 01:55 PM
Re: Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Progressive Review

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You HAVE got to be kidding.
Nope. Perhaps you misunderstood me. I meant to imply that Canon has quite likely designed a great camera, and that several may have gone out the door with a particular problem that is not seen in every one. Drew keeps proving the camera he has his hands on does NOT exhibit the AF problem seen by Rob Galbraith.

The issue here is whether the Mark III has an overall DESIGN flaw or Rob's cameras have a common MANUFACTURING flaw. The sample size is WAY too small to prove it DOES have a design flaw, but just one camera shown to be working properly can go a long way toward proving it DOES NOT.

Do I want to see more tests? Sure.

-Noel
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By drew on 06-27-2007, 02:21 PM
Re: Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Progressive Review

Thanks.

There is a LOT more to come.

I got in late last night from testing the camera at a local Atlanta professional soccer club with Ron Holt. I just wanted to get something up.

I am planning on doing more running tests today with additional settings and a higher ISO to yield a faster shutter throughout the run. I spent at least two hours yesterday in the heat lining up and running at the camera. While I was generally satisfied that all was working well. There was too much motion blur due to the low shutter speeds to produce consistent and definitive positive results. This was especially true of the ones where I was wearing all black to try and more closely simulate the runner on Rob's site. I must say I am not really looking forward to running at a camera over and over again today. It is almost as hot as yesterday.

I also plan to test a few other things today.
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By drew on 06-28-2007, 04:23 AM
Re: Canon 1D MKIII Autofocus- Progressive Review

Day 2 Added.
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