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Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review (Expanded and Updated)
Drew Strickland
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06-16-2007
Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review (Updated and Expanded)
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  #33  
By JoeSesto on 07-13-2007, 02:16 AM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review (Updated)

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Originally Posted by Terry Zorich View Post

Sure, I realize people were doing similar stuff with film - shooting and running off to a one-hour lab and showing/selling 4x6's and such - but nowhere near the same way as it's done now. We can have customers walking away with 12x18 prints from the race that just ended 30 minutes ago.
The era I was talking about was even before the 1-hour explosion...overnight was even extra cost.

There are people around here (San Luis Obispo County) shooting surfers that have equipped their vans with laptops and printers to sell their action pix up to the size you mentioned. I don't see how they can make any real money...seems like it is way too small a customer base.

I assume that you are doing something similar. Do you use a laptop or Epson-P (like) viewer to sell from?

Let's see...I buy a motorhome to hold the computer and printer and shoot sports...will the IRS let me write off the motorhome? (Semi-joke...I know the answer.)

Joe Sesto
Nipomo, CA

PS That Exakta was unique in several ways...one was that there was no need to rewind the film. We handloaded around 40 shots (+/-) into a 35 mm cassette and the leader was taped to the spool of an empty cart. There was a removable takeup spool on the takeup side of the camera, which we removed. We loaded the full and empty cassettes into their respective sides...they were rubber banded together so the film would not accidentally get exposed. When the last shot was taken the camera had a built-in hook shaped knife blade that was pulled down across the film cutting it right next to the feed cart..about 2 film advances and it was all in the takeup cart. You opened the back...took out those 2 carts... inserted the fresh pair...no rewinding 5' of film...no fumbling with leaders...no danger of exposing more than a few inches of film if the back was opened by mistake. Ingenious people those Germans.
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By Terry Zorich on 07-13-2007, 09:12 AM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review (Updated)

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There are people around here (San Luis Obispo County) shooting surfers that have equipped their vans with laptops and printers to sell their action pix up to the size you mentioned. I don't see how they can make any real money...seems like it is way too small a customer base.

I assume that you are doing something similar. Do you use a laptop or Epson-P (like) viewer to sell from?

Let's see...I buy a motorhome to hold the computer and printer and shoot sports...will the IRS let me write off the motorhome? (Semi-joke...I know the answer.)
Joe,

Actually, for my onsite photo work, I have an 8.5' x 16' concession trailer. It's got four "viewing station" computers, each with a 17" flat-panel LCD monitor and optical mouse; the machines are accessible from the outside of the trailer by stepping up to the counter in one of the concession windows. In the front half of the trailer I have a server and a printing machine, and my current printer of choice for everything up to 8x10 is a Kodak 9810 thermal transfer ("dye-sub") printer. For the larger prints I presently use an Epson R1800.

In my case, the trailer IS a write-off, as will be a good portion of the new Expedition I've just bought to pull the trailer.

Several other guys here on the forum have trailers for their event photography setups, as well. It's the best way to go if you're going to be doing it regularly. Just roll up to an event, connect the power (or plug in the generators), turn everything on and open the windows, and you're doing business!
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By JoeSesto on 07-13-2007, 01:27 PM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review (Updated)

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Actually, for my onsite photo work, I have an 8.5' x 16' concession trailer. It's got four "viewing station" computers, each with a 17" flat-panel LCD monitor and optical mouse; the machines are accessible from the outside of the trailer by stepping up to the counter in one of the concession windows. In the front half of the trailer I have a server and a printing machine.

It's the best way to go if you're going to be doing it regularly. Just roll up to an event, connect the power (or plug in the generators), turn everything on and open the windows, and you're doing business!
Very very impressive layout...way above what I had expected. I ran down your profile last night and went to your website and saw the trailer, but had no idea what was inside.

Well done...

I wish you much success.

Joe Sesto
Nipomo, CA
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By mbanstendig on 07-14-2007, 03:55 PM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review (Updated)

[quote=Terry Zorich;447855
EDIT: I do not mean to imply in any way that the experience of you older guys is not valuable. Mark, you have some decent and interesting images on your site. (Although I can't help but observe that they are of very slow-moving subjects.) As I am a mere 35 years of age, I dare say that most of what you seem to have posted was taken before my birth. You did a nice job with the equipment you had available, perhaps better than I could do myself, although neither of us knows for sure. Now, I will also say that using that older manual equipment, you simply could NOT do as adequate a job as I could, if trying to photograph the same subject matter, and I assure you that's in no way an oversight or underestimation of your vast experience or your skills. But your implication that those of us modern action photographers who rely on high technology to help capture the images we're after have no concept of or appreciation for older equipment or the skills it took to master them is both unfounded and irrelevant to the matter at hand, which is making quality images of the chosen subject matter.[/QUOTE]

You miss the point and make, IMO, the mistake of speaking of what you are using today as all it should and could be, excepting, of course, the original focus problems of this thread.

Don't forget, I said I own an EOS-1Ds and an EOS-1Ds Mk II, meaning I am quite with the times and with the technology.

The present selectable 48 pt Canon auto-focusing devices are, IMO, the first to actually be able to rival the Messraster (which, of course, you had no idea of, but was the first patent to ever claim focal-point-exact focusing).

But the Canon Auto-focus, even if it didn't have the small problem discussed in this thread (which, according to what I read, my EOS-1Ds Mk II does not have, at least not in any problematic way), ....even without the problem discussed here, the Canon 48 point auto-focusing devices have serious limitations for real accuracy with all subject types.

First, the sensors are too small. At many portrait distances, for one example, the sensor will cover the nose, eyes and ears. So how is it going to find the eye, which is the main subject-point? It can't. So one continues to live in a world of depth of field imprecision, with apparent sharpness, but a certain quality of image missing, however subtle or not it may be.

Then, for another example, when I want to photograph a whole doorway to fill the sceen, and the frame of the entrance-way has super-fine carving, on which I want to focus, that frame of the doorway is outside the sensor area, so I cannot focus on it and still frame my image. And to focus on it first and then frame the image and take the shot changes the distance to the door frame and changes the focus. That is not a problem with the Messraster (or even with what little precision a ground glass can offer).

Then, there are the problems with smaller apertures and low light. The Messraster can solve those problems, albeit sometimes with a second Messraster calculated for the smaller aperture, etc.

And yes, I had a super-successful pro career for all of 9 years, from 1960-1969, during which I did and mastered all types of photography. Then I moved on to other things even more difficult to master. Those photos were celebrated, exhibited and published in those days in the finest venues. Of course, viewing them on the net with monitors not matching mine, etc., is a risk I took and which I avoided for quite some time until monitors and such reached a decent level. But that is not seeing them in their originals or as I viewed them on our Apple 30" monitor or SONY 24" CRT wide-screen GDM-FW900 super-monitor.

So I would suggest keeping this to the technology. I mentioned my stuff to point out that sequences could be done manually. And one makes a mistake to believe that the subjects of many of my sequences moved in any less difficult-to-catch speed or manner than modern sports or auto-racing, etc. Most of my subjects moved and changed attitude with enormous speed, but also in much less predictable manners than auto-racing and most sports. Even my children photos, most of which are not yet posted, has subjects of totally unpredictable nature and manner, moving quite speedily.

A shot on my site (of the Liberty Bell copy we gave West Berlin at http://www.anstendig.com/Berlin%20Photos/bell_index.htm , click on the thumbnails) might have been helped with the canon Autofocusing. With the Canon, I wouldn't have had to do any focusing at all. In that photo I had to focus by moving back and forth until I saw the focus in the messraster, while holding on for dear life.

But please remember that, even without the fault discussed here, modern auto-focusing still needs refinement and perfection. It should be on the whole screen, not just in the middle section, and the smaller the sensors, the more accurate the focusing (assuming the sensors are as sensitive as the present ones). Just for starters.

Mark
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  #37  
By JStarkey on 07-27-2007, 11:23 AM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review

Can anybody tell me how to disconnect the auto focus and the shutter buttton.??

I just got the Mk III and being unable to do that is making me very unhappy. That feature in the EOS 1d was something that I really love and makes my photography much better.

thanks,

joe Starkey
Abilene, TX
JStarkey9@aol.com
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By NillToulme on 07-27-2007, 11:28 AM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review

This chart may prove useful Joe.

Note that there's also a CF that swaps the functions of the AF and * buttons. I don't know if it shows up on that chart, as I don't think there's an analogous function in the II.

Nill
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  #39  
By JStarkey on 07-27-2007, 11:59 AM
Re: Canon 1D Mark III- Full Review

thanks, still took a while but I got it done.

just a guess - but much of the fuss over focusing may be attributable to having the autofocus linked to the shutter. the pressing of the shutter button frequently throws off the focus when they are connected.

my ratio of keepers went way up after a sports illustrated guy showed me how to disconnect the autofocus from the shutter at the Cheyenne Frontier Days way back in 92.


and back in film and manual focus days - I shot soccer with a keeper rate in excess of 30 per roll of 36. 6+ games a day/5 rolls per game and bring them back the next Saturday and generally sold more than 20/roll at $7 for one, $12 for 2 and $15 for 3 (don't make momma just choose one and have to keep/trash the others!!!)

shot one motorcycle moto cross race with higher ratio of keepers but had 2 OM 3s and a loader. Have no idea how the guy that hired me sorted them out and sold them but since this was in the 70s and I got $500 for the day - he must have had a good system.

Joe
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