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Old 07-27-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: Photoshop CS4 (Camera Raw 5.0) vs. CS3 Color

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I'm also not willing to accept a rendered, 8-bit, JPEG in a small color space!
That's fair. But everything I print goes converts any image with a larger space down to 8 bit jpg anyway. If I was selling high-end portraits or art, I'd maybe not want to accept it either.

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Having custom DNG profiles that more closely mimic the default JPEG rendering is a step in the right direction. But I seriously doubt that even with a family of such profiles, you'll get 100% (or even high 90%) matching to the JPEGs, 100% of the time.
That certainly would be a huge step in the right direction, if it happens. and yes Noel, I'd buy your dng profiles if they matched.

The one thing I should have added to my post is that I do have issues with camera rendering when I have strong uniform colours or skin tones. I have learned to turn down saturation on the camera as my default because jpg images (at least on Canon) tend to accentuate things like a skin rashes, sunburned cheeks, etc. They are far more pronounced than they should be but that was a problem (though not as much) on film also. Raw does a better job of those but I have to weigh the total of the pluses and minuses.

Generally, I have found the buying public want images that have more snap than the original. I recall decades ago that the trend started with the Japanese public who always preferred more vivid saturation to our bland North American tastes. I find that our tastes have now moved pretty far in the saturated direction. Not my personal taste but who am I to argue, I'm not into spicy food either - I'm too sweet.

  


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Re: Photoshop CS4 (Camera Raw 5.0) vs. CS3 Color

Haven't been back here in a while...

Let me just say this: Since having developed a good 40D profile that gives me a default starting point virtually equal to the camera output, I've felt the "duality" of raw vs. JPEG completely melt away. It's like I've been shooting one camera and viewing one set of images.

I often preview images using Irfan View, which (set appropriately) extracts the embedded JPEG from within the .CR2 files very quickly and conveniently for previewing. Then when I select the image (of several in a set for example) that I want to open and process, it's a perfectly smooth transition.

I've never commercialized this profile, though I have gotten a lot of interest from folks who have read this forum.

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