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Old 01-28-2005, 06:01 AM
Alex_Zabrovsky Alex_Zabrovsky is offline
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Help call, for Photoshop freaks

Hi, need some hlp from Photoshop image editing pros, of freaks.
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I have cetain image with large part of blue sky. Preparing one for printout, I do Soft Proofing with my lab's printer's profile, and see sky blue tone is altered becoming somewhat dirt-greyish.
I'm not really Photoshop savvy in terms of sophisicated image editing, just do basic one. I tried several things, wasn't able to get back the sky even near to its original appearance.

I would be grateful to provide a part of this image and printer's profile for anywaone who would be willing to try to fix it, i.e. to bring the sky to its original appearance under Soft Proofing with this profile, and then would explain me how to do that. I would be happy to learn.

Just drop me a line with your email here on to my email privately, I would be happy to proceed with that.

Sincerely, Alex

  


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Old 01-28-2005, 06:48 AM
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Re: Help call, for Photoshop freaks


Hi,
Hmmm?-- Are you following the procedure?is this a CMYK profile(worst case scenario anyhow!)

A: Do Not strip out your embedded profile in orig RGB.
B: Go to Proof >Custom where you have your output profile and load --with CMYK(?) paper white ON apply a gentle Scurve to bring it back to your orig RGBfile--which should be open in dupe beside it. Edit as you will to correct as close as poss to orig.
C: CONVERT to the output Profile for print-it should be more contrasty /richer than orig --that's OK it's just Pshop has turned of the Paper setting.
D: Save as blah blah-DO NOT EMBED the output profile
E: If you Soft Proof in Ps in print with preview-use the output profile file as Doc and your Printer profile for proofing.

Should do it -see sample att Euroscale V2 Doco for press printing soft proofed in CS Epson1270

http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/team201/Test_1.jpg

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Des

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Old 01-28-2005, 01:49 PM
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Re: Help call, for Photoshop freaks

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Hi,
Hmmm?-- Are you following the procedure?is this a CMYK profile(worst case scenario anyhow!)

A: Do Not strip out your embedded profile in orig RGB.
B: Go to Proof >Custom where you have your output profile and load --with CMYK(?) paper white ON apply a gentle Scurve to bring it back to your orig RGBfile--which should be open in dupe beside it. Edit as you will to correct as close as poss to orig.


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The way I read the OP, that's exactly his problem. He tried to edit it to correct as close as possible, but his Photoshop skills aren't good enough for that.

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Old 01-28-2005, 04:15 PM
Alex_Zabrovsky Alex_Zabrovsky is offline
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Re: Help call, for Photoshop freaks

Thank you guys for your responses, perhaps I didn't make clear what I did (for Des), Johan apparently got my point.

The question was not about how to do Soft Proofing, but just how to bring the sky appearance on the image under Soft Proof to the original. Obviously, I duplicated the original image and applied Soft Proof to the copy. Comparing their appearances I see the image under Soft Proof differs (in sky area) from the original one, so my intention is to bring it back as close as possible to the original, and here my skills seem to limit me.

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Old 01-28-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: Help call, for Photoshop freaks

Ha! yes Alex,

That's what you get when you stay up late!

OK I'd use Image>Adjustments> Selective Color>Drop down list> Blues and try the Black slider first to correct back to orig.

Try other colors in the range you wish to adjust-just have the orig open beside.

Will work more apparent in RGB but more subtle in CMYK file( opposites work more successfully in that mode,another can of worms however!)

Good luck,
Des

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Old 01-28-2005, 06:50 PM
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Re: Help call, for Photoshop freaks

Alex
I really don't have expertise in printing or converting to cmyk and softproof. But as far as I understood you still have an image in photoshop open for adjustment.
Try the automatic level. Make an adjustmentlayer with levels, click on options in the levelwindow. Mark the upper setting (monochromatic contrast) set the shadowclipping to 0,00 % and the highlight clipping to 0,05 % and go for it. If the changes are to heavy just turn the opacity of the level adjustmentlayer down to the percentage that you like.
Don't know if this works for softproof but it sure works fine for blue sky that looks dirty greyish.
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:47 PM
John_Luke John_Luke is offline
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Re: Help call, for Photoshop freaks

If the sky color is beyond the gamut of the printer, which is what the soft proof is telling you, no amount of editing can make it print. Try to replace it with another color that is within gamut.

Is your monitor properly profiled/calibrated? If not, this may be why the soft proof looks so disappointing. Is the printing profile properly made and high quality? If not, the soft proof will look off, and the print will be off as well.

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