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Old 03-14-2003, 03:11 PM
Paul Mounce Paul Mounce is offline
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>Simple, American (and presumably British) forces could die if sensitive data is revealed either >intentionally or inadvertantly by journalists. These restrictions have been imposed in every war >in the last century.


Ah, if only it were that simple...

Most journalists that I know would never post info that endanger troops in the field, i.e. troop movements or locations that are not readily known to enemy forces. I think the big issue is that the military and powers that be have learned from Vietnam that honest reporting from the field can influence public opinion at home. There was a lot of bad stuff that went down during the first Gulf War, and most of it ws not reported in the mainstream US media. I don't recall even hearing about the "Road of Death" until quite a bit after the war, and then it was from foreign news sources. To put it bluntly, the government does not want pictures of American troops in body bags splashed over the front pages for fear of what it could do to our war effort. The only thing that the military wants published is "War begins, smart bombs dropped, Hussein defeated, no civilian casualties reported, a good time was had by all..."

Don't get me wrong, I don't like pictures of American soldiers in body bags. To be exact, I don't like pictures of ANYONE in body bags. But whether are not I like them, they ARE part of the baggage that comes with war, and when the government tries to censor that reportage we all suffer.

To get an idea of what I'm talking about, go The Digital Journalist @ http://dirkhalstead.org and look up the exhibit called "Requiem". It is about the photogs who were killed doing their duty during Vietnam, and while the images are not pretty, they are part of our history, and they played a large part in influencing public opinion (and rightly so). Also check out Peter Turnley's gallery
"The Unseen Gulf War" to get an idea of what was kept from the American public...

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Old 03-14-2003, 03:15 PM
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Marcus,

Thanks for the link to Digital Intifada...
Great stuff on your site!

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Old 03-14-2003, 05:23 PM
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Paul,

Thanks for your thoughtful response, and comments regarding the website.

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Old 03-18-2003, 07:54 PM
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Look nobody is saying don't report the news. Matter of a fact there is a greater chance of body bag shots of US forces since journalists are embedded within units now. Yes their reporting may be slanted since those same forces are also protecting them in dangerous conditions. That is human nature. Balancing that is what makes a good journalist.

War is a dangerous thing. Bombs drop, bullets fly, people die! Casualties are part of war and thinking that enemy battalions shouldn't be hit in a convoy, that civilians won't be included in the body count, etc, etc, is very naive IMO as it is not possible to be surgical and perfect. Anyone in the theater is at risk from any manner of dangerous situations including mistakes and accidents. In a perfect world there wouldn't be a need for war. And I don't care what side your on no one can tell me we live in anywhere near a perfect world.

Journalists inside Iraq need to think about traditional methods of getting the news out should they get shut down by attack or signal blocking. Maybe even sending couriers to neighboring countries with typed or handwritten stories if need be. The signal from media can be mistaken as enemy military communications as there is no way of taking the time to determine friend/foe when it comes to blocking the signals or destroying them. Also there was talk years ago after the last Gulf War about some communications equipment being used in conjunction with radar to increase the effectiveness against stealth technology (developed by the French and rumoured to be sold to Iraq which is why it was such a big story at the time). So knocking out each and every source of communication, either directly hitting it or by an ebomb blanket, makes sense from a military point of view as it may save lives of both the pilots overhead and possibly even stop orders from commanders in Baghdad from reaching their troops out in the field.

And yep I may be one sided with my US/British/Spain hoorah but they are our troops and I support them regardless of what I think politically is behind it now that the ball is in motion. Besides I think that what we see as journalists, on either side, is a small bit of the info that our government has and perhaps there is a much bigger picture that none of us, on either side, can appreciate fully until we look back on history.
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