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Old 09-06-2005, 12:40 AM
PaulChiu PaulChiu is offline
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Chromatic Aberration or not?

Hi, just got the D2X after 4+ years with D1X.

Tested with 117-35 AFS, 18-70 AFS, and 85 1.4D with some high dynamic range scenes and mostly all have chromatic aberration (bluish-purplish) somewhere. I wanted to know if this is acceptable or a trip to Nikon Melville is on the agenda.



100% at http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/origina...9098f0a12-.jpg

Above with 17-35 AFS at f5.6 with SB-800 with diffusion dome. Light inside should be soft due to dome, but that leftside window is troubling.



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Above again with 17-35 AFS at 32mm at f2.8 and SB-800 with dome. Face is soften as expected with dome but again that window region is troubling.



100% at http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/origina...1aefa3d97-.jpg

Above with 17-35 AFS at f6.3. Still troubling CA with wires....

Thought maybe it's the 17-35 AFS being bad. So I tested with 18-70 AFS below



100% at http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/origina...35907751c-.jpg

Then I use the 85 1.4D at f8.0



100% at http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/origina...3582b883f-.jpg

Using flash with 85 1.4D eliminated much of the CA, but not all. see:



100% at http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/origina...dc2d4bf39-.jpg


Are these typical of the D2X ???

Thanks for your attention.

Paul

  


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Old 09-06-2005, 03:53 AM
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Re: Chromatic Aberration or not?

Optical chromatic aberration will usually disappear by enabling Chromatic Aberration Correction in Nikon Capture 4.3. I see at most trace amounts in your photos.

I see nothing in your photos that I haven't also seen with other brands. Any trivial chromatic defects that are present are dwarfed by the unappealing lighting and processing of the photos.

I don't know how you processed the photos, but at least the one with mother and child on the pier appears to have been smeared by overly aggressive noise reduction (or something else) which results in an overall melted-plastic look. I always shoot raw, so if this is an out-of-the camera JPEG, check your parameters as the results are quite poor IMO.

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Old 09-06-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: Chromatic Aberration or not?

Lloyd,

Thanks for the reply.

I am glad you think it's not the D2X.

All the above were NEF's, then opened with Capture 4.3.1 and transferred as 8-bit Photoshop CS2 files. I then saved a copy within CS2 and either do auto-level or auto-contrast before doing a 150% unsharpened mask before saving into JPEG for WEB posting.

The one at the pier was shot with an extremely strong 330PM EST sun with plenty of ground and water reflections. The use of the SB-800 diffusion dome may have added more to that artifical look. What troubled me were how all the overhead wires have that weird bluish/purplish color.

I purposely tried to create a high/low dynamic range inside the room tobring out the CA.

Paul

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Old 09-06-2005, 09:40 AM
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Re: Chromatic Aberration or not?

Around such extreme light and darks and thin things like wires no lens and camera that I have seen would do much better. I don't see CA here but a bit of halation around the edges of light windows etc. Hope it helps. Everything looks fine to me, don't spend too much time sweating this stuff it will only make you nuts and keep you from making images.

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Old 09-06-2005, 01:53 PM
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Re: Chromatic Aberration or not?

Thanks Alex,

I just think the D1X handled windows much better.

Can't see any strange colors around the head here (D1X with 105):

http://paulchiu.zoto.com/img/800x600...11e6869bb-.jpg

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Old 09-06-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Chromatic Aberration or not?

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Lloyd,
I purposely tried to create a high/low dynamic range inside the room tobring out the CA.


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What confuses the issue is the question of (1) optical chromatic aberration (of which there are two kinds), which is a property of the lens, and (2) the loosely-used term "purple fringing" around areas of high contrast, which is a property of the camera (in my experience).

The former (lens-induced) shows as red on one side of an edge (even low contrast sometimes) and cyan/green on the other and sometimes (though harder to see) yellow/blue.

The purple fringing seems to occur only in high contrast areas, and is definitely camera-dependent, with the Nikon D70 exhibiting far worse behavior than the Nikon D2X. Whereas optical CA gets worse away from the optical center, the purple fringing does not vary across the frame, which is the way to recognize it.

Confusing the issue is the fact that both effects can occur together.

The good news is that there is very minimal CA on most of Nikon's ED lenses and that the Chromatic Aberration Control option in Nikon Capture gets rid of virtually all of it. In fact, it even reduces or eliminates it when used with 3rd-party lenses, even shift lenses fully shifted!

This gives otherwise excellent lenses like the 10.5/f2.8DX fisheye, the 24/f2 AIS and 28/f2 AIS a new lease on life; they have severe color fringing which is nearly eliminated by C.A.C. in Nikon Capture. Nikon screwed up on the 10.5/f2.8DX by allowing way too much color fringing, but C.A.C deals with it very well, except in the far corners.

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Old 09-06-2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: Chromatic Aberration or not?

Lloyd,

I know about the Enable Color Aberration Control in Nikon Capture Editor 4.3.1, but never really see it "working" or "in process". Is there a progress window? Is there a way to see the changes it made?

Similarly, I can never see how the Capture dust off function work either, as there too, there is no before or after window.

Paul

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