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D2H Skin Tone
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:04 PM
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D2H Skin Tone

It's been several months since the D2H has been on the market. Looking at the images of skin tones in natural light I see the same thing...yellow magenta and blotchy. White teeth are yellow. Nothing has changed since the first samples were released. Strobes, on the other hand, look much better. Ahhh...why so much yellow and why no complaints from D2H owners about it?

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Re: D2H Skin Tone
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:24 PM
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Re: D2H Skin Tone

I have also noticed this on some of my images and on at least some of them I have concluded that I am seeing the yellow because of the mixture of different lighting. For example I am shooting in a room that is lit by florescent and sun light while using my 80DX flash for fill. On some of the images the color looks good except for some yellow areas on the nose and forehead. I think that the florescent is overpowering my fill flash and I get this problem.
Now having said that, I have shot with a DX1 and I have not seen this problem in the same setting.

As I stated in another post it would be good to have a Nikon Consumer advocate (a person who works for Nikon) whose job it would be to answer questions just like this.
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:51 PM
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and on at least some <<<

All this rationilizing. Yellow is yellow. Magenta is magenta.

However you want to dance around it. It's there, and has not changed.

No firmware upgrade or fix.

Too bad. So sad........

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What color calibration are you using?
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:54 PM
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What color calibration are you using?

What are you using for color calibration and what are your key parameters?
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Old 03-11-2004, 08:14 PM
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Sal,
I don't get what you're saying. I've shot my first 3000 shots with the D2 under studio lights. I color metered the lights, set the appropriate kelvin setting and shot. they are as neutral as can be on both my monitor and lightjet prints from my lab. I also shot under stage lighting earlier this week and made a metered evaluation of that light before the beginning of the program. Also right on the money. I'm beginning to think that a lot of the complaints about the d2 are results of less than careful metering and exposure............ At any rate, no problem on my sample.

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Old 03-11-2004, 08:31 PM
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Re: What color calibration are you using?

Has anyone tried doing a camera profile on the D2H? I don't have one, but from the files I've seen, it does seem to have a red/yellow bias. I would think that some camera profiling would clear that up. Another constant I see in the posted test images is -.75 / -1. stop under exposure. That's going to cause shifts in colour balance, which ever camera you use.

Despite the negative press, I'm still going to get one as soon as collect all my pennies up.

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>>with the D2 under studio lights. I color metered the lights<<

Yeah, sure. But any (good) camera should be able to do that.

The thing _should_ be able to squeeze out a decent skin tone under totally IDEAL conditions. That's a given.

It's the _un_ideal (read most, and read normal) condidtions that are the concern.

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Half the stuff I have seen folks being "accepting" of (present company excluded) has been crap (IMO.)

Again, like always, just MHO, and of course YMMV! I voted with my wallet on this camera. I'm really _happy_ for folks who like it, though!

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