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Re: Monolight Questions
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:44 AM
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Re: Monolight Questions

Am thinking of buying monolights (Profoto Compact R or perhaps Elinchrom RX's) vs power packs (lower cost?) but am concerned about ease of use. Some questions:

I would suggest you look at what Hensel can offer.

Hensel USA - Integra Pro Plus

I have recently bought a two light 500w/s monobloc kit (with which I am absolutely delighted) and have I written a little about the feature set here...

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a) Auto dump - if the monolight doesn't have this feature does it mean I have to go to the light itself and manually trigger it? Or trigger remotely if it has Pocket Wizards inside?

Dumping the power manually could possibly slow your work down on a long shooting session where you were constantly walking to the lights and adjusting the light output or waiting for excess power output to be dissipated. For a short portrait session, or similar, it is unlikely to have much impact on how the shooting session progresses and how it feels to you.

The Hensel monoblocs use auto-dumping. The integra/pro plus head range also contain the wireless receiver, which is built into the heads, and offers excellent control to the user, giving them the ability to set every adjustable parameter from the camera position.

b) Weight - I intend to use large softboxes (3'x4) and Octal type umbrellas (5') so will this weight mean the lights & stands could tip over easily?

The Hensel monoblocs use a very smart fitting that can be slid along the length of the casing body. It adjusts the centre of gravity so that fitting heavy light shaping tools can be accounted for. I think the feature is unique and shows the care with which the system is designed.

Adding wall or ceiling mounted brackets that will take your monobloc heads, in your regular studio location, will reduce or remove the issue.

c) Stands - Looking at Avengers but there are so many models to pick from I don't know which way to go! Thoughts?

Light stands can be a bit like tripods... cheap usually means not effective and good usually means way too heavy to transport easily. You will possibly end up buying a good air-damped set for the studio and a lighter set (use with sandbags) for location work. The leg length, height extension and combined weight of head and light shaping accessory and size are the deciding factors in the overall stability of the kit in use.

d) Remote Power - I want to use these outside as well. Vagabond the way to go? Other options for powering? Perhaps the Tronix Explorer XT? Thoughts?

Hensel provides a battery pack called, 'Visit'. It should provide around 160 full power flashes for two 500w/s lights.

e) Any other considerations relative to ease of use for monolights? Or is it just easier to go with a pack and head setup?! Thanks for your help.

I used to use some non-wireless monoblocs (Elinchrom Micro 750s heads) and adding wireless to them was an expense that proved to be less than useful. The Hensel system lets the user make adjustments to power (6 f stops in 1/10th stop, with consistent and accurate light output) and modelling light (300w prop/full, on or off) and provides 3 different wireless channels and I have not used the system beyond about 65 feet (it was faultless at this distance) from the camera position but I have read that 100 feet is possible. Less wires trailing around means a safer working environment for subjects, clients and photographers.

I don't think that packs being used on location in the open are necessarily going to be any easier to use. In the studio situation, I can see how they might be easier. As to the quality of design of the Hensel units... They are easily the match of the Elinchrom RX units and the brilliant design of the system for holding accessories, feature list and ease of use has lead me to the conclusion that they are the better quality units. They Hensel 500w/s kit two light kit (including the wireless transmitter) costs less than the Elinchrom RX two light kit of 300w/s without the wireless transmitter.

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Re: Monolight Questions
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Monolight Questions

Jeff, thanks for taking the time to provide a Great item by item review. Looks like you really like the Hensels. I will absolutely check them out. Thanks again.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:55 PM
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My pleasure, Bob. Please let me know what you think, if you happen to get your hands on the Hensel kit to assess it. You will be comparing Hensel's German engineering and Elinchrom's Swiss engineering. I don't think there is anything to choose between the units in the quality of construction. Ease of use and thoughtful design are the hallmarks of Hensel kit and I believe that they give you much more for your money. I don't work for Hensel and I am not receiving any commission. I offered my suggestion because I have found them to be really effective and high quality tools

Even if the distribution is a little patchy in north America, I would consider the Hensels to be well worth the wait. I have used all kinds of monobloc units from Elinchrom and Bowens as well as using the packs and heads from both manufacturers. I pay for all my own stuff and I never want to spend money on anything then find I have to make other purchases. I could not imagine that the Hensel lights would disappoint any pro.

The even lighting provides good quality illumination and the consistency and accuracy of the output for the monoblocs must make them the best kept secret for lighting, in my opinion. Hensel also produce some excellent high output generators and pack heads... so a comprehensive kit can always be assembled at a later date. The cost is nowhere near as stratospheric as the Profoto kit and unless you are already locked into Profoto's own light shaping accessories, there seems to be no great advantage in making the much more substantial investment that would be required.

Light is light and it is our primary tool. If you can guarantee the accuracy of the output and the units can be worked all day, they ought to serve the need. We could debate whether an image looks better for one kind of manufacturer's light output as opposed to another's. I suspect that I would not really be able to tell the difference between manufacturers. I am only really interested in the accuracy of output... everything else is a bonus.

Jeff

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