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Old 06-17-2006, 12:26 AM
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Just a quick question for the the group. This fall we will need to bring on additional help to cover all of our bookings. I have a base of 3 shooters that I have a LONG established relationship with and pay them quite well, maybe too well. What I'd like to get a feel of is what other event companies in the NORTHEAST are paying their "day shooters". These are photographers that work only occasionally in a WFH arrangement, 8 to 10 hour days, zero pp, just shoot and drop off cards. Zero sales, marketing, no need to hand out cards or flyers.

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Old 06-17-2006, 07:50 AM
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Re: Pay Rates

While this forum is still quiet I dont know if you'll get many answers from the Northeast, but if it helps I pay £125, which is about $225 for just photography.

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Old 08-17-2006, 01:13 AM
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Eric,
I would be very interested in what you pay your folks. We are looking for additional shooters to help us at our events here in Phoenix. Not sure how to pay (hourly, by event, % of what we sell on site and online etc.) do you pay more if they have thier own equipment or do you provide. any insight would be helpful.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:24 AM
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Carl,

First off, we do not provide equipment. I will at times provide memory cards if the shooter has another assignment and needs to fly from our gig. Pay rates are all over the place. Sometimes I just need someone to shoot a single game, an hour and a half or two, for this we offer $50 to $75 depending on the level of the shooter. I have one shooter that has been with me for the last two years, he gets paid a percentage of his sales, 25% to 35%. He mostly shoots larger events for me. I am planning on offering him a day / game rate as calculating his sales out of the rest of the event is becoming a royal pain. For day rates we pay from $125 to $200. I've used the stringer rates that the local papers pay as a guide. Around here the average assignment rate for a stringer is $50.

I also get a WFH agreement signed from each photographer. The PPA website has a sample that has been approved by the legal department. I always feel guilty asking for the contract given the "rights grabbing" sentiment, but we also sell / license images to the local papers and it would be a nightmare to license an image from a photographer, then re-license to the paper, and track future usage. It could be done, but I see it as a real pain down the line.

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Old 08-17-2006, 11:49 PM
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Allow me first of all to state that I did not invent my program. I am simply copying the development program I was brought up in.

Trainees serve for a year or two part-time as my assistant. And then they are promoted to associate photographers. The idea is they are in training, with an ultimate goal of owning their own company one day. I currently have three protégés who have there own studio elsewhere.

All trainees and associate photographers are part-time employees; all of them have a day job.

Trainees are paid $9 per hour and associate photographers are paid $25 per hour. If they provide there own equipment, I pay them an equipment allowance. If they drive to a wedding, I also pay them a fuel allowance on top.

In most cases associate photographers are shooting Value weddings and long story short, they can make $150 for a short Saturday afternoon wedding.

I do not involve them with commission, and I do all the post production. They simple have to shoot, and attend mentoring sessions, to review there work.
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Re: Pay Rates

Under your agreements who owns what rights to the images? That is the most significant part of what the payment is to be expected. What are the exact details?
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:51 PM
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Pavel,

We own all rights. We use the PPA's sample contract, and as such these are work for hire deals.

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