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Old 11-08-2005, 08:55 PM
Michael_Nakamura Michael_Nakamura is offline
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Small Graduation Ceremony

Seeking advice about method and pricing for small private college graduation.

Time frame: Spring 2006
Graduates: ~100
Shoot: Handshake with Dean photos, then portrait with parents in separate room (pre-purchased).
Deliver: Print package (pre-purchased)
Allow: After the fact print orders.

Just starting to think about how I’ll quote this and would welcome any suggestions.

Thanks, Mike.




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Old 11-09-2005, 08:21 AM
Gary_Evans Gary_Evans is offline
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Re: Small Graduation Ceremony

In the UK this pack sells for approx £65 ($100?). Usually three 10 x 8 plus four 5 x 4 of the graduate, plus two 10 x 8 family shots, plus two 8 x 6 of the presentation.

I would suggest that set up flat lighting for the studio shots, so you can work quickly without having to change anything.

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Old 11-10-2005, 02:56 PM
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Re: Small Graduation Ceremony

Hi, question is for either Mike or Gary on this topic;

Would you do anykind of order/print fulfillment on site, or print at the lab and mail? I have been trying for a couple of years to put together a game plan to go after the graduation photo biz market myself, but can never get anykind of feedback. We all know that there is a market for these photos, but getting a foot in the customer's door is always key. If anyone else on the forum has anykind of feedback on getting some traction in this area, please let us know. thanks!

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:00 PM
Gary_Evans Gary_Evans is offline
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Re: Small Graduation Ceremony

Kenneth, I think that the UK market maybe very different to the US one. I say this because I had an American lady work for me for a while and she said that graduations at UK universities were very different to hers (Boston, Massachusetts).

Anyhow.....back to the question. Over here people have to tender to each individual university/college for the work. It is usually the company who offers the highest commission cheque to the university who gets the work, which is usually then a 3 or 5 year contract. That is why it is so hard to break into the market. The universities never give any feedback to the unsuccesful bidders.

Because the event market here is not as well established as in the States, most customers have not realised that it is possible for photographers to offer them same day prints. About a 4 week wait is the norm here!!! All the major players here do use monitors to show the graduate a choice of images so they can choose which is printed but thats as hi-tech as we get. There are advantages to this way though - for instance less staff needed on site, less space required, less stuff to take so a smaller vehicle needed etc etc.

I would suggest finding out from the universities you are targetting when their appointed photographers contract expires and try to pitch then. If you get a job let me know as I'd love to come to the States :-)

Gary
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:23 PM
Michael_Nakamura Michael_Nakamura is offline
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Re: Small Graduation Ceremony

From what I understand they expect mail back prints.

I'll try to get mmore infomration from the prospect about what they need.

If any other thoughts come up, please post.

Mike

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Old 11-12-2005, 01:48 PM
Graham_Taylor Graham_Taylor is offline
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Re: Small Graduation Ceremony

The graduation market here in the UK is based on "packs" so to try and print on site is very difficult.Concentrate your energies on the photography and mail the packs after the event.
Over here we will have a sales desk displaying sample packs and the option of adding to them for extra groups.Many pre-order but some will order and pay on the day.Queues will form before the ceromony but some will prefer to come after so be prepared for that.

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Old 11-14-2005, 07:53 PM
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Re: Small Graduation Ceremony

We did this once and only once. Printing on-site is difficult as all of the graduates and family show up at once after the ceremony and then are in a hurry to leave to go do dinner or whatever. Shoot the grip-and-grin and then shoot the family shots. Deliver later. I sold much more off of the web later than I did on site which is a rare thing for us.

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