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Re: Noise Reduction Software
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:26 PM
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Re: Noise Reduction Software

You typically won't see much noise (if at all) in shadow areas when working with ISO's in the 100-400 range when working with recent Canons. They are excellent peformers in this respect.

I suspect, though, that your problem may stem from underexposing the shot, particularly if you are shooting RAW, and then leaving the 'Auto' settings on popular RAW converters, like Photoshop's ACR. The effect will be to boost the shadows up a stop or two, and it will accentuate the noise enough to be noticeable.

So, the first thing to do is to 'expose to the right' (Expose Right), as much as possible, without blowing any of the channels (check the R,G,B histogram) in the highlights. Then, when processing the RAW, turn off all the 'auto' functions to start, and then do whatever change you deem needed manually, being careful to not over-boost the shadow areas, lest they erupt in noise again.

If you can't get the exposure high enough, because you are shooting handheld, for instance, then you need to punt and get out the tripod. It's really important to not chronically underexpose a digital sensor, just for the convenience of handholding to get a reasonably sharp image.

The next thing to think about is your lighting. It may be that the shadow areas are indeed just too dark, and if you wish to see detail there, you may need to 'cheat' a little and use some subtle off-camera strobe light (set it on 1/128 power manually, for instance) to add some definition to the shadow areas.

Check out the 'Strobist' blog at Strobist for some really good info on how to do subtle interior lighting on the cheap, without spending a fortune on lighting equipment.

Hope that helps...
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Thanks to all for your input regarding noise reduction software and lighting. The Strobist blog is especially interesting and helpful.

Flash is a whole new world to me so I appreciate all the help I can get.
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Re: Noise Reduction Software

I use noise ninja even on my low iso images and am quite impressed with the results. I have both the plug in and stand alone versions. The standalone version is great for doing batch processing while the plug in is easy to use on an open image in photoshop. I paid 109 for the package believe it was worth every penny.
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can you tell me where on the noise ninja site you find profiles for you camera?
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Re: Noise Reduction Software

I haven't noticed anyone that has responded here using Noiseware. I am hearing some great stuff about it, but haven't checked it out yet.
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Re: Noise Reduction Software

I am using Noiseware Professional PS plug-in and am very happy with it. I use it mainly with film scans and mostly use ACR if I need some noise reduction of raw files. There are a couple of coupon codes for Noiseware you can use to get a twenty percent discount. If you google it you can find the codes. I believe it was under $60. A few things I've learned about noise reduction in general- if you plan to use Noiseware, Noise Ninja or similar- do not do any noise reduction in the raw converter as the different algorithms can conflict. And it may be obvious but you want to do noise reduction before any sharpening. As someone else mentioned some noise is acceptable and certainly preferable to overdone noise reduction. The good third party noise reduction software picks up where PS leaves off and is well worth it for demanding tasks and tough images.

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Old 12-12-2006, 06:19 PM
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Re: Noise Reduction Software

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can you tell me where on the noise ninja site you find profiles for you camera?
Hi Aaron,

You can find the profiles here.

PictureCode: Noise profiles

I use NN and like it with a Nikon D2h and D70s.

Best of luck

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