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Old 03-07-2007, 12:32 PM
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Advice for point & shoot

Hi everyone,

I shoot with DSLR's but I have been looking for a while for a point & shoot.
I want something with good optics, accurate AF, fast operation, and that when I press the shutter the shot is taken (no hunting AF or shutter delays).
6 MP would be more than enough. Optical stabilization and a fast lens would be a plus. Good high ISO performance would be very welcome as well, although I don't expect to get it from a digicam.
Is there anything at all like this in the market?
Thanks.

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Hi Raul,

Have you seen this recent thread yet?

Which Digital Point & Shoot for Wife on Vacation?
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Thanks Drew. I just read through it.
It seems I'm not the only frustrated one looking for a simple yet efficient P&S.
BTW, I forgot to mention above but I also want RAW, without having to wait 10 sec for the file to be written to the card!!

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Raul,

"It seems I'm not the only frustrated one"

But there are not enough of us to make it worthwhile making the camera of our dreams.

When a friend asks you which camera to buy, and you tell him/her, is not the first thing they ask 'how much does it cost'.

You and I know that should be the last consideration - but we are in a minority that is too small to count.

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Tony,
You are right, the point and shoots aren't targeted for us. We are a small bunch.
Well, I really want something small and I am tired of waiting so I'll try to find something as close as possible to my ideal camera and accept its limitations. It will be better than not having a P&S at all.
I'll search through these forums to see what I can find.


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But there are not enough of us to make it worthwhile making the camera of our dreams.

When a friend asks you which camera to buy, and you tell him/her, is not the first thing they ask 'how much does it cost'.
I think this familiar assumption is at least debatable. There are quite a few "niche" p&s products out there, and I think that tells us camera makers aren't averse to servicing smaller markets. A couple examples off the top of my head:

- Ricoh GR Digital
- Ricoh Caplio 500G
- Sigma DP1
- anything Leica makes

Some camera manufacturers are, by definition, niche producers, and some are niche producers due to market share. Most of these niche producers have no prayer of dramatically changing their market position, yet they soldier on. Unfortunately, they mainly seem to produce products that compare unfavorably to mainstream products in their fundamental characteristics, even when they compare favorably in particular ways.

Is there a way to reach these people and give them a good by-the-neck shaking?

As a side note, I've a festering suspicion that the supply of electronics available to most would-be p&s camera makers is somewhat limited, which would be an explanation for why we have reams of products that are so undifferentiated. I have zero industry knowledge to support my hypothesis other than observing how many hundreds of p&s cameras share similar specs and similar shortcomings. I also note that the two p&s companies that seem to consistently come out tops in the fundamental image quality and camera performance are the two that have complete vertical control over their electronics (most critically, they engineer and produce their own sensors): Canon and Fujifilm. But even they market a lot of disappointing p&s cameras, and I would call out Canon as amongst the least imaginative about product design.
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I haven't been following this thread very closely.

But you may want to check out the new Sigma DP1 in the newsfeeds on the front of the site?
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