Got my Artisan working again, and looks great, but I have to say people's faces have a magenta thing going on with them in the skintones. Which is fine. It looks ok. But when I drag the image over to my cheap $200 NEC (my "palette" monitor), the faces are less rosy, but actually look good too -- although totally different.
So which monitor is correct? The expenseive $1800 calibrated one or the cheap $200 non calibrated one? Who makes the rules? And who do you know what the correct reading is of the orginal file supposed to be??
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Re: Astisan is working, but who know what is right?
How do the lines and bars in this image look? The vertical bars should all be pretty gray and even side to side if the monitor is close to being properly set up.
Re: Astisan is working, but who know what is right?
Noel,
When I first saw you image, I thought, How crazy, I'm asking about color and it's a grey image.
And it looks fine on the calibrated Artisan, but what amazed me is when I dragged it from the Artisan over to the super cheap palette monitor, with the cheap monitor, the 2nd large grey bar, the middle column is very green, the right column is a bit purple, and the left column is a bit magenta. The rest is grey. The same 2nd large grey bar is perfectly grey on the Artisan. And this I think answers my color question, right?
So even though the Artisan seems to have a magenta bent to it, its correct, while the cheap uncalibrated monitor is a bit green. Side by side comparsions of people shots one could argue that they both are very different but valid, but I now see from you photo, why people rant so much about calibration.
What is this image and how does it perform such a calibration test? quite interesting.
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Noel
This is very interesting.
I have a dual monitor PC. The primary monitor is an EIZO ColorEdge & the secondary is an HP 20" & both are calibrated 4 weekly with an Eye-One & Eye-One match 3 software.
When I view your test chart on the EIZO it's perfectly monochrome.
I drag the chart on to the HP & it has a yellow colour cast in the right hand column of the large centre bar & a slight blue cast on the centre column of the 3 in the centre bar.
So I recalibrate the HP & the casts are gone.
Clearly the HP does not have the colour stability of the EIZO (& considering the EIZO is 10x the price, I shouldn't be surprised).
It does show how important calibration is particularly with lower cost monitors.
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Re: Astisan is working, but who know what is right?
Noel,
Further, I thought that it would be very useful to keep a copy of your monitor calibration target so I copied the image & pasted into Irfanview.
I then used SaveAs... & saved to a JPG, a TIF & a BMP.
When I open the 3 saved files, the TIF & the BMP appear exactly as the original.
But I nearly fell of the chair when the JPG opened. The colour casts were extreme.
In the center bar, the right hand column is yellow in the bottom half, the centre column is magenta in the bottom half & the left column is green in the bottom half.
What does that say about the JPG encoding in Irfanview?
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Originally Posted by KevinCarter
So which monitor is correct? The expenseive $1800 calibrated one or the cheap $200 non calibrated one?
IF the Artisan is running as it should, its correct in terms of the target calibration you asked for. Its a true, reference device (in that its a closed loop system, with a colorimeter mated to the display phosphors, with really, really good software to control the unit electronically). That doesn't mean you've set the correct (ideal) calibration aim points. For example, the luminance is based on the viewing of your prints by the light box. The box may be brighter or dimmer than the Artisan so one, or the other need to be adjusted. But I'd put a lot of faith into the Artisan assuming its still running up to snuff etc.
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