Colour management hell....

[Drew MacCallum]

are both applications using the same rendering intent within their color settings?

[AndrewRodney]

Originally Posted by Drew MacCallum

are both applications using the same rendering intent within their color settings?

All simple matrix like profiles (working spaces) use Relative Colorimetric as they only have the one Colorimetric table.

[Drew MacCallum]

so regardless of what option is chosen in PS color settings in the advanced drop down, it treats it as Relative?

[AndrewRodney]

Originally Posted by Drew MacCallum

so regardless of what option is chosen in PS color settings in the advanced drop down, it treats it as Relative?

For Matrix profiles yes. You only have the option to use the Colorimetric table (which means either Relative which is what normally happens or Absolute which would look pretty awful since that's for proofing and honors the media white). Try this. Make a solid color square, convert using Saturation, Perceptual and RelCol. You'll get the same values on conversion.

Printer (LUT based) profiles are different. They have three tables so what you ask for in Photoshop is what you get. But working space profiles only have one table.

[John_Vito]

Originally Posted by David Hughes

Shoot D200 in Adobe RGB
Run Aperture and CS3 on an Imac
Print on a R2400 with a Lyson CIS

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However, the prints don't match the screen and tend to come out too saturated. Initially I thought it might be down to lighting conditions when I profiled the monitor and/or viewed prints but I have also noticed that when I view the images on Aperture and I view them in CS3 they also look different from each other. This doesn't matter whether I have onscreen proofing off in both pieces of software or use the same profile for viewing.
Dave

Dave are you using Lyson's Fotonic inks? Is this your first time building profiles with Printfix Pro?

As far as I know the only third party inkset that Colorvision Printfix Pro has problems with is Lyson's Fotonics. I used Fotonics with an Epson 1280 for a long time (actually with an excellent custom profile made my Andrew Rodney ;- } ) but have since moved up to Epson's K3 inks (4800) with excellent profiles built with my Colorvision Printfix Pro.

[AndrewRodney]

Originally Posted by John_Vito

Dave are you using Lyson's Fotonic inks? Is this your first time building profiles with Printfix Pro?

As far as I know the only third party inkset that Colorvision Printfix Pro has problems with is Lyson's Fotonics.

I don't know enough about the underpinnings of the device but apparently unlike a true Spectrophotometer, the product/software has to make some assumptions about the inks and here may be the issue. As you say, at least one set of 3rd party inks have been a problem. That's why I suggested a call into CV to see if the inkset could be the issue here.

[David Hughes]

Originally Posted by John_Vito

Dave are you using Lyson's Fotonic inks? Is this your first time building profiles with Printfix Pro?

As far as I know the only third party inkset that Colorvision Printfix Pro has problems with is Lyson's Fotonics. I used Fotonics with an Epson 1280 for a long time (actually with an excellent custom profile made my Andrew Rodney ;- } ) but have since moved up to Epson's K3 inks (4800) with excellent profiles built with my Colorvision Printfix Pro.

I'm using their Photocrome inks and it is the first time building a profile with Printfix Pro (though I have used other calibration tools).

Dave