Pro Photo HOME
Go Back   Pro Photo HOME > Professional Digital Camera Discussion > Canon EOS Digital SLR with 1.6X sensors
Register Now for FREE!
Our records show you have not yet registered. Sign up for your FREE account INSTANTLY. Free accounts provide basic access.

Username: Password: Confirm Password: E-Mail: Confirm E-Mail:
Agree to receive admin email and abide by forum rules 

ColorRight

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1  
Old 05-15-2008, 05:42 PM
Lenny Hartley Lenny Hartley is offline
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 25
Referrals: 0
Lenny Hartley 10
Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

I used my canon 40d with canon 70-200 2.8 L is for the first time the
other day, I was shooting at a motorbike racing meeting, and the metering
was jumping about all over the place, I usually setup for AV so I can control depth of field and modify ISO to control shutter speeds,
However the metering was jumping about +/- two stops making it
impossible to know what was going on, I eventually setup for manual
which was fine as long as I knew what I was wanting to shoot but if
something happened in another direction I would not be able to point and
shoot, I also noticed similiar issues with a 20d but only when I was
using a pentax 645 lens with zoerk adaptor but it was no problem as
I was shooting manually anyway, however the issue with the 40d is more
serious as I need to shoot automatically, I did not notice the same
issues with my 100-400 L is lens fitted but I didnt use it much!!!
I spoke to another photographer at the event who told me that he
had sold his 30d due to the same problem.
Anybody else seen this ?
What is White Balancing ?
Pro Review of White Balance.
Get your Color Right in 15 seconds
www.colorright.com




Support Pro Photo Home. Buy all your gear at the Pro Photo Store and B&H.


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  #2  
Old 05-15-2008, 06:34 PM
Ron Metz's Avatar
Ron Metz Ron Metz is online now
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 169
Referrals: 0
Ron Metz 10
Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

Lenny,

I shoot kids soccer and baseball with my 40D and 30D and the EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS lens and have not experienced what you have. I also shoot in AV. Now, you probably know this but I am going to mention it anyway because I experienced it. If you have the ON/OFF switch up all the way, it activates the quick control dial on the back of the camera. If you are not aware that it is activated, you can very easily move it without knowing it and change your exposure to over or under your "correct" setting. Thanks.

Ron
__________________
"I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live." Socrates.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  #3  
Old 05-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Noel_Carboni's Avatar
Noel_Carboni Noel_Carboni is offline
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 4,977
Referrals: 1
Noel_Carboni 10
Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

What metering mode have you chosen?

Without knowing that answer I'm going to hazard a guess that you accidentally have it set to spot metering, which is measuring the object at the center of the image for the exposure. I recommend Evaluative metering mode, in which the camera software looks at the entire field of view and chooses exposure settings.

Using Evaluative metering I rarely see an image with my 40D that's more than a fraction of a stop off, exposure-wise (the same was true of my 20D). I've come to trust Evaluative metering.

-Noel
__________________
My eMail address: NCarboni@att.net
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  #4  
Old 05-15-2008, 11:13 PM
Will_Mass Will_Mass is online now
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: MD/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 705
Referrals: 0
Will_Mass 10
Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

We also use Evaluative Metering for outdoor events. Adding +1 stop EC on the 40D's, +2/3 stop on the 20D's. Haven't seen the described behavior on either of those models.
__________________
You can only fish for so long before ya gotta throw a stick of dynamite in the water.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  #5  
Old 05-16-2008, 02:11 PM
Lenny Hartley Lenny Hartley is offline
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 25
Referrals: 0
Lenny Hartley 10
Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

I was using spot metering however I was shooting a burst at the same target so was not moving the "spot" about into dark and lighter areas, I used it again today and no
problem with all the same settings, the only difference I can think of is that the temp
was a lot higher in mid to high 20's C last week, I will try evaluative mode thanks
for the reply's
lenny
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  #6  
Old 05-24-2008, 03:10 PM
Lenny Hartley Lenny Hartley is offline
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 25
Referrals: 0
Lenny Hartley 10
Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

I have used a few times since the issues with metering and it has been ok with the same settings as before, will keep an eye on it but suspect temp may have something to
do with it, however we dont get many days in the mid to high 20's c in Scotland
so will probably be a while,
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues
  #7  
Old 05-24-2008, 09:17 PM
Doug_Kerr's Avatar
Doug_Kerr Doug_Kerr is offline
Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Weatherford, Texas
Posts: 2,012
Referrals: 0
Doug_Kerr
Re: Canon 20d/30d/40d Metering Issues

Hi, Noel,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel_Carboni View Post
Using Evaluative metering I rarely see an image with my 40D that's more than a fraction of a stop off, exposure-wise (the same was true of my 20D). I've come to trust Evaluative metering.
I'm using a 20D, with a 40D due to arrive Wednesday.

I somehow have the feeling that I would like to use evaluative metering, with the camera free to place metering emphasis (what ever that means) on the areas around all "active" AF points, with the camera choosing those points (as if automatic AF point selection were in effect), but nevertheless for actual focusing purposes have a single AF point preordained.

Do you know any way to make a 20D and/or 40D do that for me?

One might think that (on the 20D) one of the options for CF04 might lead to that, but it doesn't seem to come out that way.
__________________
Best regards,

Doug

Visit The Pumpkin, a library of my technical writings:
http://doug.kerr.home.att.net/pumpkin

"Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler."
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Pro Photo Store and B&H

Visit the B&H Pro Photo Store for the best Gear Prices and regular specials!

Brilliant Color for any Digital SLR
White Balance Cap
The Pros Agree on ColorRight
What People Are Saying


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.prophotohome.com/forum/canon-eos-digital-slr-1-6x-sensors/76731-canon-20d-30d-40d-metering-issues.html
Posted By For Type Date
Pro Photo HOME This thread Refback 05-16-2008 08:52 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:04 PM.





ColorRight

Pro Photo Store

Professional Photo Resources Atlanta






Geo Visitors Map

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0