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Old 09-09-2009, 10:35 PM
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5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

I shoot Raw for big jobs and jpegs for small jobs.

Still -- for small jobs --I miss that with Raw you can slide the WB and increase contrast etc.

Jpegs out of camera just have that yellowness to them.

Anyway to achieve great looking jpegs out of camera? thanks!

  

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Old 09-10-2009, 01:46 AM
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Re: 5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

That's a pretty odd question. If your jpgs are yellowish, I'd say that either your WB is off or you've got something wrong with your camera. Without providing more details, it's not possible to give a good answer other than the usual "shoot raw, of course".

Many of us actually have problems to easily get raw output to look as good as jpgs that are properly shot.

For the past month I've been shooting both jpg and raw on all my jobs. My personal findings are that even in some very difficult shooting situations, I'll take the jpg file over raw 80+% of the time. Granted, these shots are going to 8x10" but at that size, it's not often I need to revert to the raw files. The ones that are better as raw are when light conditions suddenly changed outdoors and I couldn't adjust quickly enough. The last month has been a typical blend of my work for T&I football, soccer, baseball, action sports and a golf tournament today - about 10K shots.

It's important to keep in mind that I'm an old time shooter who is very careful in checking exposure and I almost strictly work in pre-set K for WB.

If you provided more details on how you arrived at your WB Kevin, You'll get better help. Also, we need to know how you are evaluating the 'yellowish'. Is it a properly calibrated monitor or is that from prints you've made?

It's real easy for a question like this to get bogged down in the raw vs jpg fight. I always suggest that people use what works best for themselves and to keep an open mind.

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Re: 5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

Hi, Kevin,

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Jpegs out of camera just have that yellowness to them.
Is this with the in-camera WB set to AWB or what?
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Re: 5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

I always shoot RAW with my 5D, so I'm probably not the best source for advice. If I had to rely on jpgs, I'd do a pre-set white balance, although the AWB has always been good for me. Shooting both RAW and jpg might be your best bet. You can always ditch the RAW shots later if you don't want to store them.
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Re: 5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

Setting a custom white balance by shooting a white/gray card or Drew's ColorRight device would be a quick and accurate way of insuring white balance when shooting jpegs. I believe the 5D has this capability.

I also found this feature in an online review:
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The EOS-5D has the same advanced white balance bracketing and WB shift features as the 20D. WB bracketing will take 3 shots in a row, each with a different WB setting. The X-axis covers the blue/amber direction, while the Y-axis is for green and magenta. WB shift lets you use the joystick on the back of the camera to choose the exact color shift you desire. You can even do both at the same time!
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:10 AM
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Re: 5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

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Setting a custom white balance by shooting a white/gray card or Drew's ColorRight device would be a quick and accurate way of insuring white balance when shooting jpegs. I believe the 5D has this capability.
Indeed the EOS 5D provides for setting a "custom white balance" by shooting a neutral target or using an incident light acceptance diffuser.

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I also found this feature in an online review:
The "WB shift" function of this screen is basically intended for "tweaking" a preset white balance setting or a "Planckian locus" WB setting attained with the"K" setting.

For the most part, it has to be used by "trial and error".

Note that the bracketing function only provides for a WB correction shift between shots along the blue-amber axis, the extent of which is also set on this screen. But the WB correction the bracketing "starts from" is indeed influenced by the WB shift setting proper that can be made on this screen. (The graphic display for the bracketing does not portray that.)
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Re: 5D: can I get great jpeg white balance?

>>Note that the bracketing function only provides for a WB correction shift between shots along the blue-amber axis,<<

Not so, Doug. Starting from the center of the WB Shift/Bracket display, turn the Quick Control Dial clockwise to set up an Amber/Blue bracketing sequence, or counterclockwise to set up a Magenta/Green bracketing sequence. You can then use the multi-controller to shift the bracketing sequence as desired.

Also, I find that the RGB histogram is often effective for judging the desired amount of WB shift if the objective is to align individual color channels.
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