Pro Photo HOME
Go Back   Pro Photo HOME > Professional Digital Camera Discussion - Full Access for Basic Members > Canon 1-series Digital SLR and EOS 5D

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack (5) Thread Tools Display Modes
  5 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1  
Old 03-31-2009, 05:44 AM
Richard Dickins Richard Dickins is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 95
Richard Dickins 10
5DMkII reflections in picture

Some of my shots seem to be displaying some kind of ghost-image of what looks to be camera internals:



Full size images <here> and <here>.

The lens attached was 24-70 F2.8L with a Hoya Pro UV filter on. Focal length 70mm, lens hood attached.

As you can see from the pictures, the sun was to the right of me, slightly behind.

Here's another, where the ghost image is a little more indistinct:
.

Since this doesn't show up through the viewfinder, my guess is that it's coming in though the viewfinder. I guess that since the camera is portrait at the time (90' anticlockwise), maybe my (right) eye is not making as much contact with the rubber eye piece and allowing an image to sneak in?

I need to test more to find out I think.

  


White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-31-2009, 10:12 AM
ChuckWestfall ChuckWestfall is offline
Premium Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Lake Success, NY USA
Posts: 2,509
ChuckWestfall 10
Re: 5DMkII reflections in picture

You might want to try removing the UV filter, and be sure to use the lens hood.
__________________
Chuck Westfall
Technical Advisor/Professional Products Mktg. Div.
Consumer Imaging Group/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-31-2009, 10:21 AM
Doug_Kerr's Avatar
Doug_Kerr Doug_Kerr is offline
Premium Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Weatherford, Texas
Posts: 2,145
Doug_Kerr
Re: 5DMkII reflections in picture

Hi, Richard,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dickins View Post
Since this doesn't show up through the viewfinder, my guess is that it's coming in though the viewfinder. I guess that since the camera is portrait at the time (90' anticlockwise), maybe my (right) eye is not making as much contact with the rubber eye piece and allowing an image to sneak in?
Since the secondary mirror is opaque, I would think that with the mirrors up (during exposure) there would not be any path from the viewfinder into the mirror box (and thus ultimately to the sensor).

This could possibly be a reflection of the face of the sensor returned from the back of the UV filter.
__________________
Best regards,

Doug

Visit The Pumpkin, a library of my technical writings:
http://doug.kerr.home.att.net/pumpkin

"Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler."

White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-31-2009, 06:27 PM
Richard Dickins Richard Dickins is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 95
Richard Dickins 10
Re: 5DMkII reflections in picture

Interesting ideas, I need to do some more testing.

I'm guessing that maybe it's not the filter, because I have had the filter on the same lens for years and never seen this type of effect, this lens has been on a 5D (Mk 1) and 1D2 and 1D3. Also, other shots taken just after or just before do not show this, although they are landscape format shots of the same subject in the same light.

On the subject of light getting in via the viewfinder - in the 1D manual it says: "...stray light entering the eyepiece can adversely affect the exposure." - that's why they have an eyepiece shutter. I initially read this to mean the exposure settings (i.e. metering), but it could be read as affecting the image.

More tests needed when I can get out and about again. I certainly need to be more scientific about this.

White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-31-2009, 10:53 PM
Doug_Kerr's Avatar
Doug_Kerr Doug_Kerr is offline
Premium Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Weatherford, Texas
Posts: 2,145
Doug_Kerr
Re: 5DMkII reflections in picture

Hi, Richard,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dickins View Post
On the subject of light getting in via the viewfinder - in the 1D manual it says: "...stray light entering the eyepiece can adversely affect the exposure."
Yes, this means by way of an effect on exposure metering. (It's a thing I often forget, to my regret. I keep the "cork" for my 40D eyepiece in the bag, but rarely think to use it!)

Best regards,

Doug

White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-07-2009, 04:45 PM
Richard Dickins Richard Dickins is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 95
Richard Dickins 10
Re: 5DMkII reflections in picture

I managed to reproduce it quite by accident this evening inside. It's is a reflection of something that is just outside the field of view of the lens, and the filter makes no difference.

I tracked it down because I recognised what it was a reflection of, when it appeared against a dark foreground. The unfortunate thing is that I can't see it through the viewfinder - it only seems to appear in live view mode. Now I know what I am looking for I can track this down a little easier, and experiment with other cameras too.

White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-08-2009, 12:44 PM
Dennis_Vied's Avatar
Dennis_Vied Dennis_Vied is offline
Moderator- Lifetime Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Livermore CA
Posts: 1,586
Dennis_Vied
Re: 5DMkII reflections in picture

Quote:
Originally Posted by fast1 View Post
what is exposure metering?
Perhaps if you give us your real name, someone will give you an answer.

Forum rules.
__________________
Dennis

White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.prophotohome.com/forum/canon-1-series-digital-slr-eos-5d/81508-5dmkii-reflections-picture.html
Posted By For Type Date
81508 5dmkii Reflections Picture Rapidshare Search Engine - Meta search engine - search DVD, MP3, ISO, music, video, games This thread Refback 09-02-2009 01:35 PM
Interesting "ghost" problem in EOS 5D Mk. II - Open Photography Forums This thread Refback 05-23-2009 07:10 PM
Interesting "ghost" problem in EOS 5D Mk. II - Open Photography Forums This thread Refback 05-08-2009 04:55 PM
Interesting "ghost" problem in EOS 5D Mk. II - Open Photography Forums This thread Refback 05-08-2009 10:36 AM
Pro Photo HOME This thread Refback 03-31-2009 06:40 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:52 AM.


ColorRight





Professional Photo Resources Atlanta

Photo Barn


Geo Visitors Map

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0