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Re: DXO Warning!!!
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:02 AM
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I think DXO have seriously shot themselves in the foot over this issue, as well as releasing DXO 5.x before it was of a sufficiently good quality level. As a software developer, I've seen this many times before - the marketeers force out a release before the developers/QA are happy with it. The damage to the company's reputation more than cancels out any extra profit they might make by early sales.
I'm skeptical DxO is such a large corporate behemoth that it has a marketing faction to appease. More likely, they're just gradually going broke and under pressure to produce new revenue. I'm a software developer in the same market—arguably, I'm directly competing with them on one front—so I feel I can empathize with them. (Maybe I'm kidding myself.)

This marketplace particularly sucks right now due to a slow US economy, generally slow business in the photo world, and the weak dollar. DxO has to successfully market fairly esoteric products that aren't easy to explain and cannot really integrate with mainstream (i.e., Adobe) software. Meanwhile, they're saddled with producing cross-platform user interfaces for their technology, which is incredibly difficult to do at all, let alone do well. I'm in exactly the same boat as DxO, but I have relatively little overhead and more modest responsibilities, whereas DxO has been trying hard for the last couple years to be a Real Software Corporation in France. I could be wrong: they may be rolling in revenue. But I doubt it.

At the same time, I think they're just foolish to deploy something like Interlok, at least without making it unavoidably clear to the customer that they're doing so. For twenty years, I've been involved with software companies that have tried every imaginable approach to license control and copy protection including dongles and dedicated hardware. I've reached two conclusions from my experience:

1. Copy protection injures your actual customers far more than it defeats "pirates" or software sharers.
2. If your disposition towards your actual customers is hostile, you're in the wrong business.

Your comments, here, seem to support my conclusions.
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Hi Martin, I have also been in the software business for over 35 years and I have always said the software protection does more harm than good. Problem is, is that the bean counters have control of even the technology companies and they think they have all the answers. I can see control of the counterfieters but the few who use the programs without paying are really some of the best sales down the line when they deciede thay really like the program. The honest ones will buy, the theives will always steal. Thats just the nature of the beast.
DXO at best is arogant, at worst hostile.
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Hear hear, Martin! Your conclusions are good!

Make good products, don't overprice them, treat your customers professionally and with humility and respect, and the market will reward you.

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Make good products, don't overprice them, treat your customers professionally and with humility and respect, and the market will reward you.
Well, certainly there's no guarantee the market will reward you at all. Demand, "mindshare" and timing are tricky factors.

I do my best to be a good vendor for my customers. My partner and I are quickly and personally responsive to our customers, mainly through email. We've turned out bug fixes on a dime based on customer reports. Our customers seem to like that. Our approach works at our size. It might not work for DxO, however; perhaps they've now got too many customers to provide that sort of service? I dunno. If customer support became a full-time job for me, it would certainly be a problem. Clearly, pretty much all large software companies gave up on providing customer support a long time ago: they either sell support services or they expect their customers to support each other, which seems a bit rude, dontchathink?

As for the "overpricing" you mention, well, that's rather subjective. I've received a few email lectures from people about the pricing of my product. The gist of these lectures is always that I would sell "many more" copies of my product if it cost less.* Well, it's that definition of "many more" that worries me. I might sell more licenses if I lowered the price, but how many more? And how far would I need to lower it? (And what do I do for my existing customers who paid the original price?)

Maybe this example is illustrative (and maybe not?): After we shipped the original Mac-only edition of TrueGrain, we received a deluge of email requests for a Windows version, several of which were pledges to buy the product if we came through. We took this outpouring as a reflection of demand and coughed up a Windows equivalent. Well, despite all the noise, virtually nobody bought the Windows version. Our customer base remains nearly exclusively Mac-based. Why? I can speculate, but I don't know.

Meanwhile, I learned today of a counterfeit registration code that has been produced for my product. I was tempted—but will refrain from—inserting the animated GIF of the dancing banana to close this post.

Martin

*Some are also fond of pointing out that my product costs as much as Lightroom and half as much as a Photoshop license and how outrageous that is. It doesn't occur to them that if Lightroom had the potential market of my product—a comparatively simple niche product—Adobe would have to charge $150,000 per license. In other words, they wouldn't have bothered. It's a whole different ball game, but that isn't so obvious from the consumer angle.
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Amen to the statement that some companies just don't offer any customer support. I have bought one Roxio product in my life. Had problems. Had bigger problems on contacting them about it. Finally gave up. They offer cheap, readily available programs, {many retailers}. I guess they have a lot of one time sales.

I feel fortunate that it only cost me $40.00 to learn to avoid the hype and stick with proven products that are not priced "too good to be true".
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Un-believable that DXO (or any reputable software mfr) would do this. NO WAY will it ever end up on my computer...!
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I wouldn't worry about it. DXO 5.0 doesn't work on Mac anyway!
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