Then it sounds like the 1D is the camera for you if you have the money. I don't think Nikon users are better off with the D1x. The vertical resolution of the D1 is much lower than the 1D's and the D1x is much slower. Some people are having to buy a D1x and a D1h becase of the D1x's low frame rate. Some Nikon users are asking when Nikon is going to produce something to compete with the 1D.
Regarding TTL. No Canon digital body is ever going to offer TTL or A-TTL. For the reasons metioned above, it is simply not possible.
One thing is certain though. The DCS520's resale value will drop significantly now.
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White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland
Guys I feel that you have to look at the big picture.Now if Canon had released the 1d prior to the D30 how many millions in revenue would it have lost, likewise 12 months down the track out will come a 6 or 8 meg camera they may even have the technology for it now.But to release it now would cost then many more millions.Every company does this for if they released the be all and end all of digitals they are finished for a new product.
Am I too cynical
White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland
A few observations that seem to be escaping most. One is that we have yet to see the true image quality capabilities of this camera. Now, I'm not a physicist, but I have been talking to an engineer who has explained that pixel count is only one equation to be concerned with in digital imaging. The other important concern is individual pixel size. In this respect, the EOS 1D pixel size is almost double that of the Nikon D1x. As an owner of both a D1 and D30, I could go either way for my upgrade. But I will reserve judgement until I can directly compare printed output, not numbers.
As I have always treated digital as I would negative film capture, (i.e., I provide pre-press and clients with 9x12, or whatever ratio, prints, not negatives or digital files), my only concern is my final output. And, at these sizes, the D30 files now require very little upressing at 240dpi, and the 1D will require none. Will the final output be better than the D1x at these sizes? Will the tones be smoother, the color better? I don't know, but we'll see.
As far as LCD zoom, etc., these were things I never had on my F5's/Rollei film cameras, and I seemed to do just fine without them. After all, I still use a light meter. Maybe we'll just never have the perfect camera. Additionally, at a list price of $6499, I would expect the street price to be $4700-$4900. Maybe not a D1x killer, but I would guess Canon knows exactly what they're doing, and will remain competetive.
Sincerely
Mastrianni
White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland
'been thinking long and hard about this new machine - Rob's reports are very thorough and illuminating (as usual, thanks Rob)
From my initial scepticism, I now look forward to trying out a 1D body; clearly it has been very carefully thought through and tested and there are some clever touches like the colour spaces, user changeable curves etc. I still think the absent zoom function is a major mistake though.
Despite the increased optimism, I still feel that as part of the bigger picture there is mistake being made by Canon: The 1D is unarguably aimed at the sport/press photographer for whom the resolution from a 4M chip is adequate. For the rest of the photographic community, that chip is not sufficient, a fact recognized by Nikon with the two models of the D1.
Heroic though the D30 is it is simply not up to the job of taking pictures in the long term in the harsh environment of outdoor, all-weather photography. Now my point is this ñ I need a pro digital body, but do I spend UK£5000+ on another stop-gap camera (that will focus and remain watertight), but will only give me A5 at 300 dpi or will Canon launch a higher res camera of similar quality in the next 6 months or so?
We have all got used to buying PCs that are obsolete in 2 weeks, but with these cameras we are talking v serious money - 3 pro film bodies = an EOS1D.
Fine for the staff boys, but no one is paying me more to use digital over film or to use a 1D over a D30, it is purely a case of having a reliable camera that will actually shoot a quality, glossy magazine page and retaining the work by being 'digital'.
New ëtoysí are nice to have, but there are only so many new cameras that I can afford to buy and Iím surely not alone?. One assumes that a Nikon like strategy will be adopted, and that there will be another higher res body but why not announce it? Profits are essential to Canon like all of us, but brand loyalty and trust are essential ingredients in this game where there is such a substantial commitment to lenses and peripherals.. Perhaps Canon and Nikon too need to think a little more along these lines for the professional marketplace. Contented customers keep coming back.
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Boiling down from the above, how much resolution do we all actually need in the long term? A3 at 300 dpi equates to around 12-16Mpix - why more??
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White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland
Lets not forget that the Zoom is a software feature. If it was a hardware feature, then it might never be added, but since it's software, they might still have time to get it in. Maybe they just haven't coded it up yet, or it is something they can add in later. It's not like it's something that they just cannot add on, like a second CF slot..
Isaac
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White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland
As a D1H owner, I think the specs of this camera sound superp. The only thing I would be a little dissapointed over is the price. I'd prefer a 4 megapixel camera that can fire of 8 frames per second over a D1X. I think you Canon users a blessed, you're kind off getting the best + of both Nikon's offerings.
Plus, you shouldn't really be judging the camera by the very few reviews that are about at the moment. Images interpolated to 6 megapixel may end up looking as good as what a D1X can do anyway.
Another thing I don't understand, is the fact that I see people complaining that the camera has CCD instead of CMOS. What's going on here? I allways thought the CMOS was inferior and put into budget camera's?
White Balance so easy, even our 5 year old can do it.- Melissa Strickland
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