music use violation

[MikeA]

Originally Posted by michaelnotar

true. couldnt find the artists agent or contact info unfortunately.

Well, if you want the job done, post the artist details etc here. Someone will know.

Mike

[Don Elmendorf]

I am of the opinion that the question must be asked, do you actually know they don't ahve license to use it, was this an isolated incident of ignorance of copyright laws and the musicians rights, or repeated abuse of the same. If you are not sure then find out first. If an act of ignorance, possibly the person needs to be contacted and informed of their transgression. If the person in question acts accordingly then the matter is fairly dealt with.

If the person is a repeated unauthorized user or ignores your friendly notice, then i'd say all bets are off - copyright is copyright. How is this person's actions any different than a neighbor throwing trash on your lawn. It was either an honest mistake or intentional; thus it must be handled accordingly.

[Jerry Skrocki]

I think the main point here is that unless you are the owner of the copyright of the alleged violation, you have no recourse.

As a third party you are not being harmed by the violation. I am not condoning copyright violation, but wanting to report as a third party brings thoughts of McCarthyism.

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[Jerry Skrocki]

Originally Posted by Don Elmendorf

How is this person's actions any different than a neighbor throwing trash on your lawn.

It is different because a third party is not personally affected by the copyright violation. No one is "throwing trash" on the OP's lawn. It is not his music or photos.

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[Don Elmendorf]

Actually everyone is impacted. McCarthyism is not anything close to the issue here, that event in history was based on an abuse of a politcial adjenda. This issue deals with a legality question that may eventually impact others even you.

The reason I used the "trash" analogy is that we all are impacted or may be impacted by copyright violations, and that impact may be intentional or accidental. Consider violations of environmental regulations vs. a person speeding down the highway violating traffic laws. The traffic law violator may or may not impact others depending on the resulatant actions of that individual; therefore reporting or interfering with a speeder may be vigilatism. Someone dumping old motor oil into the back 40 may not impact you directly but impacts everyone eventually, and that may be either an accidental or intentional act; nonetheless it eventually impacts everyone. That is the point.

Someone violating copyright laws may not impact directly any one person, other than the artist, but the act or ignorance of the event eventually impacts everyone.

[PhilipKach]

Originally Posted by Don Elmendorf

Actually everyone is impacted. McCarthyism is not anything close to the issue here, that event in history was based on an abuse of a politcial adjenda. This issue deals with a legality question that may eventually impact others even you.

The reason I used the "trash" analogy is that we all are impacted or may be impacted by copyright violations, and that impact may be intentional or accidental. Consider violations of environmental regulations vs. a person speeding down the highway violating traffic laws. The traffic law violator may or may not impact others depending on the resulatant actions of that individual; therefore reporting or interfering with a speeder may be vigilatism. Someone dumping old motor oil into the back 40 may not impact you directly but impacts everyone eventually, and that may be either an accidental or intentional act; nonetheless it eventually impacts everyone. That is the point.

Someone violating copyright laws may not impact directly any one person, other than the artist, but the act or ignorance of the event eventually impacts everyone.

Your point is well taken.

However, each of us have different CORE VALUES.

To me, unless it is murder, rape, or other major crime, a third party getting involved is a snitch.

I wouldn't do it.

Your core values may be different.

Philip

PS
A big part of McCarthyism was snitching on others.
PK

[EricC]

Jerry if we were to discover one of YOUR photos being used in a manner that we thought might be an infringement, are we to believe that you wouldn't want to be told?

For that matter, when fan sites are discovered using 'stolen' photos do you believe that unless one of the photos are mine I shouldn't point out the thefts to the photographers that I know, and those that I don't?

To the OP try the RIAA.org they have an online form for reporting online piracy.

Philip I guess it depends on what you consider a MAJOR crime. Personally I consider copyright violations to be a MAJOR crime. Theft is theft no matter how you try to rationalize it.